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I was going through some old papers and found my letter from the church saying my name was no longer on church records and a list of all the eternal consequences of leaving.

The thought occurred to me, I spent so much time and money on this church and not a word of thanks. All the callings, 2 year mission, always a full tithe payer. All the bs that goes along with the organization.

Screw them. That letter says so much of who and what they are.

Thank you for your service.

I have heard those letters are pretty harsh, but have never actually seen one. What happens if you leave, and say your wife and kids stay? have you dammed them as well? do they get sealed to a "worthy Man" after you die? or does it not go into that much detail?

LostMormon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:01 pm I have heard those letters are pretty harsh, but have never actually seen one. What happens if you leave, and say your wife and kids stay? have you dammed them as well? do they get sealed to a "worthy Man" after you die? or does it not go into that much detail?

My wife is tbm and my kids all still go. They will necromancy dunk me after I've been dead a year and everything will be totally awesome

Red Ryder™ wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:58 pm Thank you for your service.

Thanks RR

20/20hind wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:17 pm

LostMormon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:01 pm I have heard those letters are pretty harsh, but have never actually seen one. What happens if you leave, and say your wife and kids stay? have you dammed them as well? do they get sealed to a "worthy Man" after you die? or does it not go into that much detail?

My wife is tbm and my kids all still go. They will necromancy dunk me after I've been dead a year and everything will be totally awesome

so, they will baptize you again after you're dead, and then everything will be restored? no need for anybody to worry then. sounds like you got a free pass for the rest of this life anyway. The baptism should take away any sin you have accumulated right? and you don't even have to do home teaching!

where do I sign?

LostMormon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:49 pm

20/20hind wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:17 pm

LostMormon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2017 2:01 pm I have heard those letters are pretty harsh, but have never actually seen one. What happens if you leave, and say your wife and kids stay? have you dammed them as well? do they get sealed to a "worthy Man" after you die? or does it not go into that much detail?

My wife is tbm and my kids all still go. They will necromancy dunk me after I've been dead a year and everything will be totally awesome

so, they will baptize you again after you're dead, and then everything will be restored? no need for anybody to worry then. sounds like you got a free pass for the rest of this life anyway. The baptism should take away any sin you have accumulated right? and you don't even have to do home teaching!

where do I sign?

That was how I explained it to my tbm wife that resignation is really the best option if she believes truly in the church and it's teaching. It's the better option if your spouse does not believe or leaves the church and you want to be with them for eternity. Just make sure the proxy baptism is done a year after death and you are good. It makes perfect gospel sense if you are a believing Mormon. I said I'm perfectly fine if they want to do a proxy baptism after I'm

Technical question , I don't believe a new baptism is needed. You interview and are reinstated if memory serves....

No if I decide while I'm alive to rejoin I will have to be interviewed and then baptized. Then after I die and find out this crazy religion was right after all then I will be delivered to the buffitings of Satan for a year (jk) then one of my family will be baptized for me.

I have not taken my name off the books...yet.

Do you mind sharing the contents of the letter with us here?

20/20hind wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:48 pm I was going through some old papers and found my letter from the church saying my name was no longer on church records and a list of all the eternal consequences of leaving.

The thought occurred to me, I spent so much time and money on this church and not a word of thanks. All the callings, 2 year mission, always a full tithe payer. All the bs that goes along with the organization.

Screw them. That letter says so much of who and what they are.

But what have you done for the church today? Nothing, you resigned! No blessings for you!

I know what you're saying though! I haven't resigned, but it would be nice to get some credit for going on mission from my family. I went inactive soon after my mission, but now I realize I should have gone inactive before my mission and saved myself two years for all the credit I get from my family for completing a mission now that I'm inactive.

I ask this question in all seriousness. What would you have liked the letter to say?

Please don't take this as picking on you, because that is not my intention, but it seems to me that for those that have left the church, it can do no right. I can imagine that if a letter contained information thanking a recently resigned member for all of the callings that he/she had held, that the resigned person might complain that the church is wacked out because it tracks our lives too much.

azflyer wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:48 pm I ask this question in all seriousness. What would you have liked the letter to say?

Please don't take this as picking on you, because that is not my intention, but it seems to me that for those that have left the church, it can do no right. I can imagine that if a letter contained information thanking a recently resigned member for all of the callings that he/she had held, that the resigned person might complain that the church is wacked out because it tracks our lives too much.

I understand your point. Reading it again, after 5 years just reminded me of how much time and effort and $$ I put into the church. And you are right that someone who had resigned may find fault in the church for just saying thank you and we wish you well in your endeavors.

I guess i did promise all my time and talents to the building up of the church and then backed out half way through.. cant expect a thank you for that..

I too totally understand where you're coming from but your post reminded me of this hilarious little ditty. Enjoy! Feel free to share with priesthood leaders.

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=_uYV5u3iz8Y

LaMachina wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:09 pm I too totally understand where you're coming from but your post reminded me of this hilarious little ditty. Enjoy! Feel free to share with priesthood leaders.

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=_uYV5u3iz8Y

LMAO!!

20/20hind wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:48 pm I was going through some old papers and found my letter from the church saying my name was no longer on church records and a list of all the eternal consequences of leaving.

The thought occurred to me, I spent so much time and money on this church and not a word of thanks. All the callings, 2 year mission, always a full tithe payer. All the bs that goes along with the organization.

Screw them. That letter says so much of who and what they are.

Knowing you personally, I know you gave the Church everything you had. The organization can never acknowledge that the now-apostate once provided significant support and benefit to the Church. To do so would legitimize or add weight to the now-apostate's decision to leave.

According to BY:

[if] there is a despicable character on the face of the earth, it is an apostate from this Church. He is a traitor who has deceived his best friends, betrayed his trust, and forfeited every principle of honor that God placed within him. They may think they are respected, but they are not. They are disgraced in their own eyes. There is not much honesty within them; they have forfeited their heaven, sold their birthright, and betrayed their friends.

The reason I wanted to know the details of what they put in your letter is just to see how much liberty the local records person has in terms of the content. One example of a letter I found online just ended with "Should you desire to become a member of the Church in the future, the local bishop or branch president in your area will be happy to help you." That was from 2013. Has it become a more nasty response since then or does it just depend on the day? Is there a difference between what a woman receives vs a priesthood holder?

azflyer wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:48 pm I ask this question in all seriousness. What would you have liked the letter to say?

How 'bout a plain simple statement like: "Thank you for your service during your time as a member."

(Along with the: YOU'RE OUTTA HERE! statement of course.)

Stig wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:44 am

20/20hind wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:48 pm I was going through some old papers and found my letter from the church saying my name was no longer on church records and a list of all the eternal consequences of leaving.

The thought occurred to me, I spent so much time and money on this church and not a word of thanks. All the callings, 2 year mission, always a full tithe payer. All the bs that goes along with the organization.

Screw them. That letter says so much of who and what they are.

Knowing you personally, I know you gave the Church everything you had. The organization can never acknowledge that the now-apostate once provided significant support and benefit to the Church. To do so would legitimize or add weight to the now-apostate's decision to leave.

Agreed! Is this who i think it is?

My letter was short and respectful. It just pretty much said, "Your name has been removed per your request".

It said exactly what I wanted it to say and I was happy to receive it. My ex-wife and I had a glass of wine over it.

My son received when he resigned over the policy. It said the exact same thing, although this time it was addressed to my ex-wife and not to my son. My ex-wife, her husband, and I had a glass of wine to celebrate that night.

It could have been nastier, it could have been nicer. To be fair, when I left the Stake President did phone me and thanked me for my service in the stake as an organist.