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Will TSM make a cameo at all for GenCon - whether in person (even very briefly) or live video feed.

He doesn't need to speak, just show his face one way or another.

I don't think he will show up. But I predict that many speakers will gush about how wonderful he is.

I don't think he'll make an appearance as they've more or less say openly that he's been relieved from day to day church duties. My only hope is that they've learned from past mistakes and won't try to claim that he's still providing revelatory leadership. Whatever may be going on with Thomas Monson, just don't lie about it.

If the membership of the church requires a lie to keep believing, then we're really on the wrong track. What would be refreshing is for someone to acknowledge that he's no longer running the show and to lay out who's actually in charge of things, because that's really not clear.

I hope not.

The last time they basically propped him up, it was a bit sickening...

I'll be the outlier.

I think he'll make an appearance.

Give It Time wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:50 pm I'll be the outlier.

I think he'll make an appearance.

I agree. I don't think he'll speak, but I think he will attend at least one session.

oliver_denom wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:24 pm If the membership of the church requires a lie to keep believing, then we're really on the wrong track.

We've been on the wrong track for a long time.

What will happen if he dies Friday night?

Perhaps a video message will be played during the annoying gap between conference sessions where the church toots it's horn for a few hours.
I can see him in a comfy chair, slippers, bottle of Mexican Coke in hand....he then announces something prophetic...."I'm so happy I can now get a coke at a BYU football game".

oliblish wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2017 1:32 pm I don't think he will show up. But I predict that many speakers will gush about how wonderful he is.

Dang you are right. One of the many things I am not looking forward to. Probably because it feels so leader worshipy and reinforces the "obey everything we say without question" idea. Also, 70s wanna get promoted.

oliver_denom wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:24 pm I don't think he'll make an appearance as they've more or less say openly that he's been relieved from day to day church duties. My only hope is that they've learned from past mistakes and won't try to claim that he's still providing revelatory leadership. Whatever may be going on with Thomas Monson, just don't lie about it.

If the membership of the church requires a lie to keep believing, then we're really on the wrong track. What would be refreshing is for someone to acknowledge that he's no longer running the show and to lay out who's actually in charge of things, because that's really not clear.

In SWKs waning years they only talked about him in PH session IIRC. It evolved from "yea, he is still involved " to "he is less involved but consulted on important stuff " to "he's not involved much at all but here's how the power structure is working". That was the playbook back then. Maybe that will get dusted off.

Some apostle needs to carry around a Thomas Monson hand puppet.

I think they'll put him on display for one session to show us how valiantly he's enduring to the end.

Red Ryder wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2017 5:09 pm What will happen if he dies Friday night?

The Nelsons will have the best weekend ever!

Corsair wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:40 pm Some apostle needs to carry around a Thomas Monson hand puppet.

This created some disturbing imagery for me.

MoPag wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:50 am

Red Ryder wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2017 5:09 pm What will happen if he dies Friday night?

The Nelsons will have the best weekend ever!

This created some disturbing imagery for me.

Linked wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:03 am

Corsair wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:40 pm Some apostle needs to carry around a Thomas Monson hand puppet.

This created some disturbing imagery for me.

Here's what you need!

Hagoth wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:59 am I think they'll put him on display for one session to show us how valiantly he's enduring to the end.

I don't know...maybe a video feed, but I hope not. His picture from his 90th birthday was pretty awful and almost scary. I think he looks so weak and so frail and that's not the image they want to portray.




But...we will see....

I do agree that there will be a lot of gushing and tributes most likely.


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Corsair wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:39 am

Linked wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:03 am

Corsair wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:40 pm Some apostle needs to carry around a Thomas Monson hand puppet.

This created some disturbing imagery for me.

Here's what you need!

Ah, that's much better. Thanks Corsair.

I have no idea about President Monson's current health status. Even sitting for a two-hour stretch could be overly burdensome. Since there are both physical and mental components involved, the question of whether he is having a good day or a bad one is also a determining factor.

The Christmas Eve Mass at the Vatican will proceed even if the Pope is indisposed. The same is true for the General Conference in Salt Lake. The important thing in this instance is to do what is best for President Monson's health.

My guess is that there will be a 'Gordon Monson the Prophet' video tribute shown on KSL between conference sessions. This would need to be presented in such a way as to not make it seem like a eulogy.

I could only hope when I am 90 I have people waiting on me taking care of every need. I think he has a great life for someone his age.

Many his age in this country a left to alone and suffer.