Emma & Jane on Prime Video?

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Red Ryder
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Emma & Jane on Prime Video?

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Did anyone watch the Emma & Jane movie on Amazon Prime Video?

It’s the story of Jane Manning and Emma Smith’s friendship and support after the death of Joseph Smith. The story line alternates back and forth between Jane’s faith as a black women, who was baptized and promised to be sealed in the temple by Joseph Smith.

While not overtly faith promoting, it was impartial to the story line and raised the question of Janes treatment as a Black woman by other members of the church and her denial to be sealed in the temple until posthumously in 1979.

Edited to add: Apparently this came out back in 2018. LDS Living did an article to pre-empt some of the questions the show may have raised.

The first, being that Joseph Smith as the Mayor of Nauvoo had the right to destroy the printing press in order to prevent mob violence. Lol.
1. Joseph Smith was the Mayor of Nauvoo at the time of his death.

This is one of the reasons that he was able to order the destruction of the libelous Nauvoo Expositor in an attempt to squelch potential mob action that the newspaper might incite.
This is new to me. It was my understanding that black members couldn’t get baptized, hold the priesthood, or attend the temple until after the infamous 1978 revelation. So how did she do Baptisms for the dead?
8. Jane was able to do baptisms for the dead for some of her family in the temple.

Though she was denied permission to be endowed and sealed, Jane remained a faithful member of the Church in Salt Lake City for over 52 years, and according to her own history, “I have had the privilege of going into the temple and being baptized for some of my dead.”
The partridge sisters story is mentioned in the show but the double wedding makes an appearance in the LDS Living article.

This is one of the shelf items I had. How could God allow the prophet to sneak around hiding marriages from Emma? Is that a flaw in Gods plan or a flaw in Joseph’s character?
10. Emily and Eliza Partridge had been hired on by Emma to help take care of her newborn son, Don Carlos.

The sisters remained in the Smith home even after the baby died, and they were privately sealed to Joseph Smith in 1842 at ages 19 and 23. Two months later, Emma approached the sisters, taught them about plural marriage, and told them that she would allow them to be sealed to Joseph. The sisters said nothing of their previous sealing and were sealed to Joseph again with Emma as a witness.
https://www.ldsliving.com/12-Facts-to- ... ma/s/89465
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Re: Emma & Jane on Prime Video?

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Red Ryder wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:49 am
10. Emily and Eliza Partridge had been hired on by Emma to help take care of her newborn son, Don Carlos.

The sisters remained in the Smith home even after the baby died, and they were privately sealed to Joseph Smith in 1842 at ages 19 and 23. Two months later, Emma approached the sisters, taught them about plural marriage, and told them that she would allow them to be sealed to Joseph. The sisters said nothing of their previous sealing and were sealed to Joseph again with Emma as a witness.
https://www.ldsliving.com/12-Facts-to- ... ma/s/89465
Interesting. I never knew it was totally the Partridge Sisters' idea to keep their previous marriage secret.

I mean, it doesn't say that, but apologetic paltering is designed to lead you to the most faith-affirming conclusion regardless of the conclusion's truth. It's doing its job well.
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Sister M watched this the other day, and asked me more about Jane Manning. I said, "Do you really want to know?" And then told her about Jane's sealing to Joseph as a servant, and her fight to get her own endowment ending badly, and her being finally endowed in 1979.

She didn't say much after that. I often wonder if her vibranium shelf will ever crack, or she'll just toss these little nuggets up there and forget about them. I'm guessing the latter.

But that's some A+ apologetic spin from LDS Living in preparation for googling Jane Manning.
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I have the feeling that accurate historians would dispute many of the points asserted by the movie and the article.
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