Cnsl1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:00 am
That's a cogent argument right there, SN.
Kinda makes me wonder if you is even white. I suspect a little miscegenation in yo heritage.
Sorry for the levity.. and I didn't mean to offend but couldn't help misself . I did indeed like that message. Makes sense.
Couple things come to mind.
First, my HS govt teacher taught that if you go far enough right and far enough left you end up in the same place, which I think is a shorter and dumber way to say what you said.
Second, I've heard some white folks talking about fighting for their lost rights and freedoms. I get that. No one wants to lose their rights and freedoms. But, so far nobody has told me what rights and freedoms they lost. Freedom to break in and ransack?
Yes, I am a mixed blood. My father was a radical preacher with passion to rattle the rafters. My mother's side was filled with radical thinkers who spent too much time in the wilderness and mountains.
I have not lost any rights as a white person. I don't think I have ever implied that. I have lost rights as an American.
I have also been blamed for a bunch of crap because I am a white person. I spent 15 years debating with a guy from Jamaica. Even though we were basically pretty good friends, he hated me. He said I was the worst type of racist. He said that because I promoted the idea of friendly relationships between different races I set young black people to be murdered by white people that they trusted.
To him, and he was a member of the Sons of Africa, an old fraternity that dedicated itself to the freedom of black people since 1790, the only solution was segregation. He thought they should push all of the white people out of the south and take over that region as their own country.
My family left Pennsylvania long before the Civil War ever started. My family worked farms and horses for almost 200 years, mostly in the Rocky mountains. I tried to tell him that I personally did not have anything invested in his oppression. He didn't buy it. simply by being a white person I was part of the problem.
I am not fighting for my rights. I am fighting for my reputation. There was a time where I wasn't sure which side of the Civil War I would have been on. But in the recent years I have dug through the illusion of what the Civil War was actually about. I absolutely would have been on the North. While the South was fighting for the rights, what they meant was that they had the right to own other human beings. There would have been no point in my life that I ever thought that was okay.
When most people look at me, they see a white person. Granted, very handsome white person, but still just a white person. I am not just that. I am a Christian from the European culture. We were the first people on Earth to grant women equal status in the culture. We gave them the right to vote. Gave them the right to own land. Many people still look at this as if we were somehow the oppressors. Nature was the oppressor. 200 years ago a woman did not survive on her own. She needed someone to provide and protect her. That's what we did. Likewise a man did not have a chance to have a family or lineage without a woman. That's why we provided for her.
Things changed and when they did we changed with too. Christian culture created an environment that has basically led the world into a new age. I did not say white Christian men. I said Christian culture.
There is a massive push against white men. It's not my rights so much that I am worried about. That's not true. I am worried about my rights. There are many white men who go to speak their opinion and are discounted merely because they're white.
If I share an opinion somebody will shout "white privilege."
Some rights are protected by the state. But rights are not given by the state. I get my rights from God. And I have the right to share my opinion without being judged by the color of my skin. Our nation has fought hard to do away with this sort of thing. But that is not something you will ever see on actual law books. Can you imagine bill title?, " white men have the right to be heard. "
To my rights that are being attacked are not in the state. The state is very clear that I have the right to speak. All people have the right to speak. But with the left, they are attacking people they don't like with social pressure. They have attacked conservatives on most college campuses. Riots have broken out to shut down conservative speakers such as Candace Owen and Ben Shapiro. Candice is a black woman, If skin color and gender were an issue she should have not only have a podium but a throne behind it. But she is also a conservative and she has been attacked both physically and socially.
I could go on for hours about this stuff. I would not want to bore you. So I will leave it with the last thought.
Society is an illusion. There have been civilizations so great that to this day they blow our minds. The things they did were simply mind numbing. Their cultures seemed rather barbaric sometimes. Some of the things that the Egyptians believed border lined on insane. But like every other civilization that has come and gone, a weakness set in. A lack of cooperation and central focus.
Chances are that will happen to America and even Western Christianity.
You will have a religion. You will choose it and fight for it, or someone will give it to you. When you get into the structure of heaven, you realize that the most important things are the ideas that people work with. In the higher heavens, they are the pillars of heaven, the foundation of existence.
Right now, progressives are attacking these pillars of our culture. They are replacing them with weaker ideas such as men can have babies. If or when this culture fails, there will be pockets of people who are solid and still have a functioning system. When society falls the first thing to spring up are radical cults who then fight over who will dominate the new culture. Many people would be happy to live peacefully and without radical thinking. But just like ISIS Begin to fill the power vacuum the Middle East, so too will groups among the Christian nations.
Chances are, the groups that can follow our current constitution the closest will probably gain the upper hand. It is the most functional form of government perhaps I've ever heard about.
But it may not last. Violating peoples constitutional rights because you don't like the color of their skin is giving permission to tear down the very institutions that hold us up.
I am white, mixed with a certain amount of handsomeness and stable genius. I am very privileged to live in the United States. I am very privileged to have more than one parent in my house. I was privileged to grow up close to nature and tall mountains. I could go on for 20-30 minutes about how I am privileged. But the idea of white privilege is ridiculous. To think that I should feel bad for the blessings God has given me goes against everything I believe. I take time out of my day to thank God for my many blessings which includes my many privileges. But that privilege never includes, thank you for making me have more rights than other people. People have the same rights under our law. But it is a fight to make it work. Just like now, I am not fighting for my rights in the government. I'm fighting for my rights in society. Even here, you hinted at my less than valid opinion because I was white. I am not sure how you put it. But my cognitive thought seemed almost non-white to you?
I had a beautiful young white girl look me straight in the eye and tell me she hated white people. This is what I'm talking about when I say I fight for my rights. It wasn't even about me at that moment. She was white and she hated white people. We do not deserve that sort of guilt trip. Our young people deserve to be just as proud of their culture as anybody else. I shouldn't have to defend the color of my skin to my own daughter, and I do. All of her friends are Spanish. Several times a week she brings her phone to me with some message where I have to explain it's still okay to be a white person. I don't teach her to be superior because of her skin. I teach her to be superior because of her tolerance and understanding.
It may have been Betty White: "I don't think I am better than anybody else, but I sure as hell ain't any less."