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Yea, verily, verily I say unto you, if all men had been, and were, and ever would be, like unto Donald Trump, behold, the very powers of democracy would have been shaken forever; yeah, truth would never have power over the hearts of the children of men.

Behold, he was a man like unto Noah, the son of Zeniff, and even the priests of King Noah, yea, and also Cain and his sons, for they were all men of dishonesty, deceit, and selfishness.

græy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:39 am You just have to understand his comments in the context of scripture.

Alma 48: 17-18

Yea, verily, verily I say unto you, if all men had been, and were, and ever would be, like unto Donald Trump, behold, the very powers of democracy would have been shaken forever; yeah, truth would never have power over the hearts of the children of men.

Behold, he was a man like unto Noah, the son of Zeniff, and even the priests of King Noah, yea, and also Cain and his sons, for they were all men of dishonesty, deceit, and selfishness.

At least, that's how Lee remembers it.

Having read the Book of Mormon, and Nibley's essay on Freeman and Kingman in the Book of Mormon, I missed the parts of the story where Captain Moroni paid off mistresses, separated children from refugee parents as deterrent, hired corrupt and ignorant people to undermine the government, flattered and schmoozed tyrants, stacked the courts, deregulated environmental and financial protections, sought to gut healthcare, refused to personally go down to battle himself (bone spur deferments), denigrated science, undermined relationships with close allies, cut both taxes and accountability for the rich, demonized immigrants and refugees, pressured Ukraine to provide smears of his legitimate political opponents, had his science office declare victory over a pandemic at the same time that infections set new record highs and leading all nations in deaths by a shocking margin, demonstrating in every divisive superspreader rally that he cares nothing for the blood of his people, and lied constantly and shamelessly.

Red Ryder wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:37 pm

moksha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:43 pm I think the Church needs to speak up before Lee requests that Trump be placed alongside the Christus statue in the Visitor's Center.

wtfluff wrote:

moksha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:43 pm I think the Church needs to speak up before Lee requests that Trump be placed alongside the Christus statue in the Visitor's Center.

Or...

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oliblish wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:33 pm

wtfluff wrote:

moksha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:43 pm I think the Church needs to speak up before Lee requests that Trump be placed alongside the Christus statue in the Visitor's Center.

Or...

MORONi-Trump.jpg

I think that was a different Moroni...

wtfluff wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:36 pm

græy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:14 am

wtfluff wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:36 pm

Mormorrisey wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:51 am I thought this tweet from Will Swenson was great:


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