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Request: short list of JS paper juiciest bits?
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:35 pm
by Abinidied
Got a request from somebody who looks like they are about to bail looking for details from JS papers and wondering if anyones put together like a top 10 list of bat $#!+ crazy quotes and such from the papers?
Re: Request: short list of JS paper juiciest bits?
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:50 pm
by græy
I would be interested in this too. I don't know any list sourcing only JSP. However, I do enjoy the following two "lists"...
https://faenrandir.github.io/a_careful_examination/
https://www.ldsdiscussions.com
Re: Request: short list of JS paper juiciest bits?
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2020 3:14 pm
by Abinidied
Thankyou græy! I was unaware of either of these sites. Just diving in and finding them excellent! Will spend some Covid time (months?) pouring through the content. Much appreciated.
Re: Request: short list of JS paper juiciest bits?
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:40 am
by jfro18
I'm not sure of a single source that goes over the best parts from the JS papers projects.
We try to cover parts of it @ ldsdiscussions, but more in the sense of how it fits into other topics.
I suppose it could be fun to do like a "top ten" list of craziest bits of info that are in the JS papers, but it's a pretty large amount of stuff to limit in that way.
Re: Request: short list of JS paper juiciest bits?
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:42 am
by Corsair
One unintentionally funny place to look is the
1832 First Vision. Certainly the 1832 version is its own can of worms. But look at the edges of the pages near the spine of the book. You can see a long, vertical line on those pages which is where they were carefully taped back in after Joseph Fielding Smith
cut them out and hid them while he was church historian for decades. There is still a couple of noticeable margin cuts on page 3 and 4. Then there is an egregiously bad tape job on the bottom of pages 5 and 6. I suspect this is where JFS botched the job in the 1960s and not a library professional in the 1990s.
Re: Request: short list of JS paper juiciest bits?
Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:59 pm
by 2bizE
Corsair wrote: ↑Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:42 am
One unintentionally funny place to look is the
1832 First Vision. Certainly the 1832 version is its own can of worms. But look at the edges of the pages near the spine of the book. You can see a long, vertical line on those pages which is where they were carefully taped back in after Joseph Fielding Smith
cut them out and hid them while he was church historian for decades. There is still a couple of noticeable margin cuts on page 3 and 4. Then there is an egregiously bad tape job on the bottom of pages 5 and 6. I suspect this is where JFS botched the job in the 1960s and not a library professional in the 1990s.
A great supporting article:
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-cont ... 02_210.pdf
Re: Request: short list of JS paper juiciest bits?
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 6:03 am
by Apologeticsislying
What sealed the deal for me that Joseph Smith was a traitor was his being anointed literal king, and his followers being and going through the same, only in super top secret. This is entirely, 100% TOTALLY at variance with everything about having America free under the Constitution. I even had the historian Michael Marquardt in my home who gave a lecture on the kingly anointing and what they were doing. So like Donald Trump, Joseph Smith, John Taylor, Brigham Young and a host of the early apostles, spoke out of both sides of his mouth and lied about honoring, obeying and sustaining the law. He and they wanted total King dictator status and the intention of going away to hide n the Rocky Mountains until things blew over was to acquire enough power and army to overthrow the United States, and rule the world.
That was the straw that broke the camels back on Joseph Smith for me. And it came out of the JS Papers.