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The Deseret Alphabet

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:48 pm
by Hagoth
I have always been confused by the early Utah Mormons' desire to develop and enforce a new alphabet. I was thinking about Newspeak in 1984 and suddenly it made more sense. The reason given was that it was phonetically based and people could learn that alphabet more quickly than the Roman alphabet and focus their efforts on other fields of learning. But it makes more sense to me that it would serve as a huge boost to message controlling. If you teach a generation of kids to read an alphabet that looks nothing like the one in the books that come from outside the kingdom you instantly make them illiterate regarding any outside message while keeping them fully literate to all indoctrination coming from inside. The added bonus is that it makes it very easy to identify which books are approved and which are subversive. Two levels of message control.

If the only goal was to make English writing more phonetic you could easily tweak the existing alphabet and spelling conventions to that end (e.g. use markings to differentiate long and short vowels, spell tough as tuff, etc.)

In case you're not familiar with it, the Deseret Alphabet is about as close to English as Reformed Egyptian:
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And in case you want to start making the transition yourself, here's a handy translator:
http://2deseret.com/

Re: The Deseret Alphabet

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:57 pm
by wtfluff
Reading the first sentence of the OP, the first think that popped into my fluffy brain: Secret Decoder Ring.

So the statements about approved and subversive messages, and the translator definitely ring true for me.

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Re: The Deseret Alphabet

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 3:56 pm
by Hagoth
You know, of course, that A Christmas Story is Satan's counterfeit of the Joseph Smith story. There's a mystical thread that binds it all together. Just follow the clues:

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Re: The Deseret Alphabet

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:46 pm
by moksha
๐๐ฏ๐‘Š๐ฌ Hagoth, ๐‘„๐ฎ๐‘… ๐”๐ฏ๐‘…๐จ๐‘‰๐ฏ๐ป ๐ˆ๐‘Š๐‘๐ฐ๐บ๐ฏ๐ป ๐ฎ๐‘† ๐‘…๐ฒ๐‘‹ ๐น๐‘‰๐ฎ๐ป๐จ ๐ฟ๐ญ๐ฟ๐จ ๐‘…๐ป๐ฒ๐‘ - ๐จ๐‘‚๐ฒ๐‘Œ ๐‘๐ซ๐‘‰ ๐ฉ ๐น๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ท๐ญ๐‘Š๐ท๐ฒ๐‘‰ ๐น๐จ๐น๐ฒ๐‘Š.

Re: The Deseret Alphabet

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:17 am
by Hagoth
moksha wrote: โ†‘Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:46 pm ๐๐ฏ๐‘Š๐ฌ Hagoth, ๐‘„๐ฎ๐‘… ๐”๐ฏ๐‘…๐จ๐‘‰๐ฏ๐ป ๐ˆ๐‘Š๐‘๐ฐ๐บ๐ฏ๐ป ๐ฎ๐‘† ๐‘…๐ฒ๐‘‹ ๐น๐‘‰๐ฎ๐ป๐จ ๐ฟ๐ญ๐ฟ๐จ ๐‘…๐ป๐ฒ๐‘ - ๐จ๐‘‚๐ฒ๐‘Œ ๐‘๐ซ๐‘‰ ๐ฉ ๐น๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ท๐ญ๐‘Š๐ท๐ฒ๐‘‰ ๐น๐จ๐น๐ฒ๐‘Š.
Peculiar indeed!

Re: The Deseret Alphabet

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:13 am
by Ho Lee Turtle
moksha wrote: โ†‘Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:46 pm ๐๐ฏ๐‘Š๐ฌ Hagoth, ๐‘„๐ฎ๐‘… ๐”๐ฏ๐‘…๐จ๐‘‰๐ฏ๐ป ๐ˆ๐‘Š๐‘๐ฐ๐บ๐ฏ๐ป ๐ฎ๐‘† ๐‘…๐ฒ๐‘‹ ๐น๐‘‰๐ฎ๐ป๐จ ๐ฟ๐ญ๐ฟ๐จ ๐‘…๐ป๐ฒ๐‘ - ๐จ๐‘‚๐ฒ๐‘Œ ๐‘๐ซ๐‘‰ ๐ฉ ๐น๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ท๐ญ๐‘Š๐ท๐ฒ๐‘‰ ๐น๐จ๐น๐ฒ๐‘Š.
And the translation is...

โ€œHello /h/ah/g/oh/t/h/, this Deseret Alphabet is some pretty kooky stuff o' even for a peculiar people.โ€


Good thing I have my own rock and top hat, and it works!!

Re: The Deseret Alphabet

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 5:12 pm
by Exiled
Gotta love our history.