Christmas devotional more miracle downplaying
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Christmas devotional more miracle downplaying
Sister Jones just spoke of her mother being sick for christmas and all the family desperately praying for a healing miracle which didn't happen. Do these people hear themselves?!? Has the day of miracles ceased?
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Re: Christmas devotional more miracle downplaying
Looks like the Grinch makes a special appearance!
Re: Christmas devotional more miracle downplaying
Part of the gospel of lowered expectations. The really promising stuff will be left to getting a planet and wives in the Celestial Kingdom.
Good faith does not require evidence, but it also does not turn a blind eye to that evidence. Otherwise, it becomes misplaced faith.
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Re: Christmas devotional more miracle downplaying
Then comes the disappointment when you realize that due to a translation error you get a plant on Kolob. Usually a shrub.
"The story so far: In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." -- Douglas Adams
Re: Christmas devotional more miracle downplaying
Hoard of Angry Sister-Wives: "You promised us a planet, not this shrub!!!"Just This Guy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:16 am Then comes the disappointment when you realize that due to a translation error you get a plant on Kolob. Usually a shrub.
Good faith does not require evidence, but it also does not turn a blind eye to that evidence. Otherwise, it becomes misplaced faith.
-- Moksha
-- Moksha
Re: Christmas devotional more miracle downplaying
I think it strange to publicly recount such a thing. The faith-promoting thing would be only to recount stories where the miracle happened. But, then, I guess that "Do you have faith not to be healed?" thing has gained traction among the believers.FiveFingerMnemonic wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:29 pm Sister Jones just spoke of her mother being sick for christmas and all the family desperately praying for a healing miracle which didn't happen.
Do you have faith to believe in a God who is not a God of miracles? A God who loves you conditionally? A God who wants you to stay a respectful distance? I say, do you believe in this Great Being?
and when someone protests that that kind of God makes no sense -
But that is the beauty of it!
(I have in my mind the image and voice of the preacher from a pre-1990 temple film - the man who played Uncle Ben in the LDS movie by the same name decades ago.)
There are 2 Gods. One who created us. The other you created. The God you made up is just like you-thrives on flattery-makes you live in fear.
Believe in the God who created us. And the God you created should be abolished.
PK
Believe in the God who created us. And the God you created should be abolished.
PK
Re: Christmas devotional more miracle downplaying
No, they have faith not to have their prayers answered.FiveFingerMnemonic wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:29 pm Sister Jones just spoke of her mother being sick for christmas and all the family desperately praying for a healing miracle which didn't happen. Do these people hear themselves?!? Has the day of miracles ceased?
~2bizE
Re: Christmas devotional more miracle downplaying
The Church's miracle problem:
The Internet allows for verification.
There can be no modern miracles because you have to PROVE it.
The Internet allows for verification.
There can be no modern miracles because you have to PROVE it.
Re: Christmas devotional more miracle downplaying
FiveFingerMnemonic wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:29 pm Sister Jones just spoke of her mother being sick for christmas and all the family desperately praying for a healing miracle which didn't happen. Do these people hear themselves?!? Has the day of miracles ceased?
Looks like Mormonism is guilty by their own measures. There is a lot of vanity in Utah...Moroni 7:37 – ...it is by faith that miracles are wrought; ... wherefore, if these things have ceased wo be unto the [COJCOLDS], for it is because of unbelief, and all is vain.
“How valuable is a faith that is dependent on the maintenance of ignorance? If faith can only thrive in the absence of the knowledge of its origins, history, and competing theological concepts, then what is it we really have to hold on to?”
D Brisbin
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