Religious persecution! Would Oaks step up for my religion?

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Religious persecution! Would Oaks step up for my religion?

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Re: Religious persecution! Would Oaks step up for my religion?

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Religious Freedom Issue Moves Church to File Brief in Court Case

This is from the website of the LDS church from May 1984, the very month that Oaks joined the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. It has a great headline that fits with the interests of Dallin Oaks. This is from the article (emphasis added):
The LDS Church’s brief asks the Supreme Court to review the religious issues raised in the dispute. The brief takes no position on the teachings of the Unification Church, or on the guilt or innocence of those involved in a tax evasion case.

It does argue that the determination of what constitutes a religious activity should be made by a church, not by the state, and that a church’s position may not be ignored during litigation, in the absence of a carefully defined state interest.
So maybe Oaks would support the Pastafarians even as their religious trolling drives him crazy. The Unification Church (a.k.a. "Moonies") does have some overlap in the religious freedom interests with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day saints (a.k.a. "Mormons"). I am pretty sure that both faiths take a dim view on using the respective "M" words for each religion.
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Re: Religious persecution! Would Oaks step up for my religion?

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I was really impressed as a TBM when the church actually took legal action in support of peyote use by the Native American Church. I thought it was about preserving anyone's rights to practice religion as dictated by their conscience (as per the Articles of Faith) but then I realized it was more about maintaining their own right to discriminate.

So, maybe Oaks would support Pastafarianism as a reluctant prop to help maintain his need for church-sanctioned bigotry. He has stated that he beleivs, under the banner of religious freedom, religiously affiliated people should have more rights than non-religious people in that they should be able to discriminate in ways that are not permitted in the secular arena. He warned about "an alarming trajectory of events pointing toward constraining the freedom of religious speech by forcing it to give way to the ‘rights’ of those offended by such speech.” See, religions have RIGHTS, but those "offended" only have (so-called) "rights."
“The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also.” -Mark Twain

Jesus: "The Kingdom of God is within you." The Buddha: "Be your own light."
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