New RFM Podcast--Arguing Against the Evidence

[consiglieri]

A new RFM podcast just went up titled, "Arguing Against the Evidence."

It details how Joseph Fielding Smith argued for the authenticity of Joseph Smith's First Vision in a 1960 New Improvement Era article, all the while knowing that the 1832 account he had hidden in his safe contradicted his argument.

https://radiofreemormon.org/2019/12/rad ... -evidence/

I admit to being astonished at his chutzpah!

[jfro18]

I had a chance to listen while I was working today and this is a short but great podcast.

Well done and I can not believe that JFS had the balls to write that knowing full well he was hiding a First Vision account that contradicted his very writing.

[Corsair]

I loved the podcast, but it's yet another issue that my believing family will never dig into and understand the depths of silliness and underhanded rhetoric employed by JFS. This has become more acute in the past year with my devout in-laws on a senior mission in Nauvoo. Their group emails to family read like old school Mormonism back when Bruce McConkie set the tone and direction of LDS theology and practice.

The multiple versions are now proclaimed as further evidence of the truth of the First Vision. They are also used as a model for how we should set our expectations of prophetic revelation. Apparently, talking to God is monumentally confusing and it takes a few years and a few revisions to get the whole story out. The implied obligation is that we have to consistently forgive every possible misstep of current or past prophets, but must absolutely obey their counsel as if they still had a clear hotline to God.

[Yobispo]

Consig - great episode. I love long-form, eat them up. But I had a very clear thought ("impression") that this is what we need, short, succinct and hard-hitting pieces but with a tone that our TBM families could stomach. I think you're on fish, my friend.

[Hagoth]

I think you're on fish, my friend.

How does one get off fish? I hear it can be a very destructive addiction. Maybe we need to sit down with Consiglieri and have an intervention.

[Yobispo]

I think you're on fish, my friend.

How does one get off fish? I hear it can be a very destructive addiction. Maybe we need to sit down with Consiglieri and have an intervention.

I'll buy the tacos.

[wtfluff]

Yeah, so, I know that my fluffly little brain shouldn't be surprised by stuff like this any more, but...

WOW.

Once again, good stuff as always Consig.