Rank and File vs Oaks
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:51 pm
TL;DR: Are rank-and-file members mostly ignoring the rhetoric coming from Elder Oaks on LGBT issue?
A little background:
I am a transgender woman who, until recently, has been mostly in the closet. I’m starting to take baby steps toward coming out.
I am life-long LDS. I first starting having issues with the church back in 1998, but it took until the spring of 2015 for the shelf to fully crack. I mostly still attend on Sundays when I am home due to family. You know that story.
Starting in 2004, I would from time to time – while away from home – attend church services in female mode. I have no pretense that I “pass” well.
For a while I would do this once every couple of years, but I have done it more frequently the past few years. In total, if my count is correct, I have done this 33 times.
In the past two years (2017 and 2018) I have attended services 16 times. In all but one case I attended the entire three-hour block.
(Why do this instead of taking the day off? I’m not really sure. At first it was, in a fashion, my way of thumbing my nose at the church, but it seems to have become more than that.)
My observations:
Some of the units I’ve attended are small, rural branches or small wards. Others are large urban or suburban wards. Mostly they have been located in the United States mid-west or United States south-east. Mostly these are one-offs, but in a couple of cases I have returned to the same ward a couple of times.
Here is the thing: I have been in every case (with one possible exception) treated kindly and with the utmost respect.
(And that one exception really wasn’t all that bad and may well have been something that I heard wrong or misinterpreted.)
Of course, every ward/branch is different in how they receive visitors, but overwhelmingly I have been warmly welcomed and received.
Despite how Elder Oaks tells (or implies) that people like me should be treated.
I realize that there is likely a big difference between how I am treated as a visitor (where I will probably never be seen again) as compared to a regular member of the ward, but still it has been surprising to me over and over again.
I happened to show up at branch/ward conference on two occasions. I was at first mistaken for a stake visitor at both locations. At both of these conferences, I spoke with the stake presidents and was treated without judgement. At one of them, I was invited to a potluck afterward and by happenstance sat at the same table as one of the SP counselors and his family, as well as with the SP himself. We had an enjoyable time.
At another ward (in a very conservative area in the deep South), before the service a very humble man introduced himself as Brother X and we had a brief conversation. I later learned that he was the stake president spending a day in his home ward. After the services, he and I had a lengthier one-on-one conversation in the hallway about the local area and some of the local happenings.
On a couple of occasions, I encountered a few women who seemed to be of a more liberal bent, and they went out of their way to welcome me, to learn about me, and one of them really bent over backward to help me with something. I have stayed in occasional contact with one of them.
It’s almost as if the bulk of church members are snubbing Oaks’ anti-LGBT rhetoric. That doesn’t fix the policy problems coming from the top, but it does give me hope that the culture is heading the right direction and that members at large are already ignoring Oaks.
A little background:
I am a transgender woman who, until recently, has been mostly in the closet. I’m starting to take baby steps toward coming out.
I am life-long LDS. I first starting having issues with the church back in 1998, but it took until the spring of 2015 for the shelf to fully crack. I mostly still attend on Sundays when I am home due to family. You know that story.
Starting in 2004, I would from time to time – while away from home – attend church services in female mode. I have no pretense that I “pass” well.
For a while I would do this once every couple of years, but I have done it more frequently the past few years. In total, if my count is correct, I have done this 33 times.
In the past two years (2017 and 2018) I have attended services 16 times. In all but one case I attended the entire three-hour block.
(Why do this instead of taking the day off? I’m not really sure. At first it was, in a fashion, my way of thumbing my nose at the church, but it seems to have become more than that.)
My observations:
Some of the units I’ve attended are small, rural branches or small wards. Others are large urban or suburban wards. Mostly they have been located in the United States mid-west or United States south-east. Mostly these are one-offs, but in a couple of cases I have returned to the same ward a couple of times.
Here is the thing: I have been in every case (with one possible exception) treated kindly and with the utmost respect.
(And that one exception really wasn’t all that bad and may well have been something that I heard wrong or misinterpreted.)
Of course, every ward/branch is different in how they receive visitors, but overwhelmingly I have been warmly welcomed and received.
Despite how Elder Oaks tells (or implies) that people like me should be treated.
I realize that there is likely a big difference between how I am treated as a visitor (where I will probably never be seen again) as compared to a regular member of the ward, but still it has been surprising to me over and over again.
I happened to show up at branch/ward conference on two occasions. I was at first mistaken for a stake visitor at both locations. At both of these conferences, I spoke with the stake presidents and was treated without judgement. At one of them, I was invited to a potluck afterward and by happenstance sat at the same table as one of the SP counselors and his family, as well as with the SP himself. We had an enjoyable time.
At another ward (in a very conservative area in the deep South), before the service a very humble man introduced himself as Brother X and we had a brief conversation. I later learned that he was the stake president spending a day in his home ward. After the services, he and I had a lengthier one-on-one conversation in the hallway about the local area and some of the local happenings.
On a couple of occasions, I encountered a few women who seemed to be of a more liberal bent, and they went out of their way to welcome me, to learn about me, and one of them really bent over backward to help me with something. I have stayed in occasional contact with one of them.
It’s almost as if the bulk of church members are snubbing Oaks’ anti-LGBT rhetoric. That doesn’t fix the policy problems coming from the top, but it does give me hope that the culture is heading the right direction and that members at large are already ignoring Oaks.
