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Did anyone else have to suffer through the Utah North conference today with Russ Ballard?

Russell mentioned the gospel topics essays and plugged Saints, and he said it was okay to ask questions. He also said that there were answers. He said that the church is completely transparent. (rotflmao)

He was pushing the inoculation button hard and fast. He specifically mentioned not to listen to podcasts or visit internet sites that create doubts.

It was painful, but my TBM DW took pages and pages of notes so Somehow I must have missed the good stuff.

Anyone else?

Oh, not a single mention of the shooting at the Jewish synagogue.... you’d think an Apostle of the lord would convey some sorrow or sympathy to other faiths that experience true tragedy.

w2mz wrote:Did anyone else have to suffer through the Utah North conference today with Russ Ballard?

Russell mentioned the gospel topics essays and plugged Saints, and he said it was okay to ask questions. He also said that there were answers. He said that the church is completely transparent. (rotflmao)

He was pushing the inoculation button hard and fast. He specifically mentioned not to listen to podcasts or visit internet sites that create doubts.

It was painful, but my TBM DW took pages and pages of notes so Somehow I must have missed the good stuff.

Anyone else?

Oh, not a single mention of the shooting at the Jewish synagogue.... you’d think an Apostle of the lord would convey some sorrow or sympathy to other faiths that experience true tragedy.

I somehow convinced my wife that I could stay home with the younger kids because they wouldn't sit still for it anyway. Glad I missed it.

w2mz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:10 pm
Oh, not a single mention of the shooting at the Jewish synagogue.... you’d think an Apostle of the lord would convey some sorrow or sympathy to other faiths that experience true tragedy.

WOW!

A common quote from Princess Leia continues to be relevant with these kinds of apostolic visits.

George Lucas, or his very talented editor, wrote:The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin [Oaks, Ballard, Nelson, Holland, Bednar, etc], the more star systems will slip through your fingers.

There are some Reddit posts about this also. It's an emotional burden to hear messages like Ballard delivered. Most NOMS and closeted unbelievers are simply never going to get an opportunity to have a serious discussion with any believer about these topics. Ballard puts it out in the open, but he's an apostle and your eternal soul is in jeopardy if you discuss his message with any attitude short of humble obedience.

Corsair wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:08 am A common quote from Princess Leia continues to be relevant with these kinds of apostolic visits.

George Lucas, or his very talented editor, wrote:The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin [Oaks, Ballard, Nelson, Holland, Bednar, etc], the more star systems will slip through your fingers.

There are some Reddit posts about this also. It's an emotional burden to hear messages like Ballard delivered. Most NOMS and closeted unbelievers are simply never going to get an opportunity to have a serious discussion with any believer about these topics. Ballard puts it out in the open, but he's an apostle and your eternal soul is in jeopardy if you discuss his message with any attitude short of humble obedience.

He basically says that. Apparently, he told a parable about doubt, relating it to a fungal infection that wiped out stand of trees at BYU. (I think I have those facts straight, anyway.) He told the same one in a Europe Area conference, which I had the misfortune to attend the broadcast of soon after my faith crisis.

Nobody stands up to these bullies.