NOM

Thoughtful wrote: ↑Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:17 pm
Why is my 17yo on the stake visit circuit you ask?

Could it be that he's a white, male, prospective elder?

MoPag wrote: ↑Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:55 am

Thoughtful wrote: ↑Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:17 pm
Why is my 17yo on the stake visit circuit you ask?

Could it be that he's a white, male, prospective elder?

I would say yes^^^ Could you imagine them doing this for a 17 year old girl? I can't.

Thoughtful wrote: ↑Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:30 am

MoPag wrote: ↑Mon Sep 10, 2018 10:55 am

Thoughtful wrote: ↑Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:17 pm
Why is my 17yo on the stake visit circuit you ask?

Could it be that he's a white, male, prospective elder?

I would say yes^^^ Could you imagine them doing this for a 17 year old girl? I can't.

And if they did, it would be the seminary teacher, not two stake leaders.

profit_seizer wrote: ↑Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:11 pm Two things that stick out to me as someone's who's traded a life of active Mormonhood for a life of active political organizing: 1) The church is obviously aware of good organizing principles and 2) dogmatism prevents them from implementing them like reasonable human beings. The organizing principle here is clearly to identify and develop potential "leadership", which they're doing by recognizing that your child is a potential missionary, nearly ready to be of age, and focusing efforts on him. But that weird-ass dogmatism keeps them knocking that front door (and of course the patriarchy keeps them going after "prospective elders" but not "prospective Laurels" in the same way) without ever taking an interest in your or your child's concerns or well-being.

I don't have a lot of hope for changing the church from the inside, though I dearly wish it would change—but at the rate they keep going, from HQ and on the ground, it's not really going to be growing in the future (of course the data bear that out, but sheeeeeeesh).

Thoughtful wrote: ↑Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:08 pmMy retort would be that it's creepy for 45 year old men to show such interest in a teenage boy....

achilles wrote: ↑Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:08 am

Thoughtful wrote: ↑Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:08 pmMy retort would be that it's creepy for 45 year old men to show such interest in a teenage boy....

PLEASE send this text. I will give you $5.

moksha wrote: ↑Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:49 am When it was time for us to select course offerings for our junior year in high school, I received a full court press from students, with whom I never associated otherwise, to register for a seminary class. I had not taken seminary during my 9th and 10th-grade years and somehow that came to the attention of the LDS seminary teachers who urged the students in their classes to coax and cajole all such students not taking seminary to enroll. I ended up enrolling but was disappointed in how ineffective the class was in teaching the stories of the New Testament. Looking back at that experience, I think using other students to pressure anyone into enrolling for seminary classes was underhanded. Had this occurred outside the Jell-O belt, perhaps some ethical shenanigans would have been eventually been called on that practice.

Brent wrote: ↑Sun Oct 21, 2018 11:34 am 1. Keep loving and supporting your son.
2. He's not enjoying the attention.
3. LDS kids lose the opportunity to take 8 elective courses because of seminary. That's a full semester.
4. Be wary of chance encounters, they might not be so chance.
5. If he doesn't plan on attending an LDS school seminary only takes away a chance to explore another class.

IT_Veteran wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:51 pm

Somehow, I'm not the least bit surprised that it went right over their heads.

On a more serious note, why are they meeting? Still trying to get the hooks into your kiddo for seminary? Or for the grand penishood? It's interesting that they are completely unwilling to take no for an answer on this.