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Pope Francis tells gay man: 'God made you like that'
Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 9:53 am
by BlackMormon
Kudos to the Pope for being more open minded that other religious leaders. Now if we can only stop Ageism discrimination and have more acceptance on who people are attracted to rather than try to dictate what is and isn't acceptable in our society, that would be progress too. I know a case of a 30 year old woman who fell in love with a 55 year old man and some people were saying, heck he could be her father! Nonsense. People don't choose who they are attracted to. Ask Elder Nelson, the Prophet. While society has evolved and become more accepting of same sex unions, I think it still holds many other prejudices that need to go away too. Ageism is one of them, especially within Mormon circles.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/21/europe/p ... index.html
Re: Pope Francis tells gay man: 'God made you like that'
Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 3:32 pm
by dogbite
Gaius Baltar has become Pope.
Re: Pope Francis tells gay man: 'God made you like that'
Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 7:23 pm
by no1saint
His uttterings are pointless as they will be bleached from history within the next couple of papacies.
If he was to call a Vatican III to discuss those issues collectively and then issue a papal bill reinforcing that, then we’re talking historic and brave. Until then, his words are worthless.
Re: Pope Francis tells gay man: 'God made you like that'
Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 3:00 am
by moksha
Rome (CNN) Juan Carlos Cruz, a survivor of sexual abuse, spent three days with Pope Francis at the Vatican in April, in which he discussed his sexuality and the abuse he suffered at the hands of a Chilean priest.
Describing his encounter with the Pope to CNN, Cruz said: "You know Juan Carlos, that does not matter. God made you like this. God loves you like this. The Pope loves you like this and you should love yourself and not worry about what people say."
This is pretty much what the American Psychiatric Association would say, minus the God part. Contrast this to what the LDS Church and Vladimir Putin would say.
Re: Pope Francis tells gay man: 'God made you like that'
Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 10:52 am
by Corsair
While I would high-five Pope Francis over this, the general attitude of Roman Catholicism towards liberal popes should a lesson in maturity for Mormons. I have some friends who are devout and conservative Catholics. They absolutely roll their eyes whenever he goes off message like this. They have openly said, "He's not
my pope." As far as they are concerned, the next pope will clear up this nonsense and get back to orthodoxy. They liked Benedict and are annoyed that he retired to let this commie loser into the
Holy See.
However, I cannot conceive of a devout, temple rec holding Mormon saying, "He's not
my prophet" after some divisive message from LDS Church HQ. This displays both a fundamentalism of Mormons and an organizational maturity of Catholics. Mormons are a long way from being able to separate the man from the office.
Re: Pope Francis tells gay man: 'God made you like that'
Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 12:44 pm
by Red Ryder
Why didn't God tell any of the other Popes or Prophets?
Re: Pope Francis tells gay man: 'God made you like that'
Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 1:06 pm
by Corsair
Red Ryder wrote: ↑Tue May 22, 2018 12:44 pm
Why didn't God tell any of the other Popes or Prophets?
This seems like something that should be in the operators manual for humans. Something like, "Approximately 3-5% of all humans will not be attracted by a polarity reversal when seeking a mate. While this will not produce viable offspring, the human is still loved by God, yadda, yadda, yadda."