I had this theory about how Kolob got its name that had to do with the fact that the Hebrew word for dog is Keleb/Queleb and the brightest star in the sky, Sirius, has a long history of being called the Dog Star.
But man I was way overthinking it.
It turns out that the Hebrew word for star, as recorded in the Andrew Sexias' Hebrew Grammer is Kokob. The second K is pronounced with a guttural accent and sounds as much like an H or an L as it does a K. It also turns out that other astronomical words that Joseph invented for the facsimiles appear to be riffs on terms from Sexais' Hebrew Grammar. Sexias was Joseph's Hebrew tutor in Kirtland and none of these Hebrew-ish words appeared in Joseph's scripture until after he had studied with Sexais.
Of course, all of the wacky cosmology in the Book of Abraham came from Thomas Dick’s Philosophy of a Future State and Thomas Taylor’s The Six Books of Proclus on the Theology of Plato, both of which were owned by Joseph Smith.
Origin of Kolob
Origin of Kolob
“The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also.” -Mark Twain
Jesus: "The Kingdom of God is within you." The Buddha: "Be your own light."
Jesus: "The Kingdom of God is within you." The Buddha: "Be your own light."
Re: Origin of Kolob
Interesting reading here Hagoth. I'm going to do some more.
One thing though, the correct spelling is "Seixas". You can get some weird stuff looking up "Sexias"....know what I mean....

One thing though, the correct spelling is "Seixas". You can get some weird stuff looking up "Sexias"....know what I mean....


"There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily."
"Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light."
George Washington
"Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light."
George Washington
- Just This Guy
- Posts: 1553
- Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2016 3:30 pm
- Location: Almost Heaven
Re: Origin of Kolob
So you are saying that all the really nutty doctrine came from bad Hebrew translations from someone who couldn't spell? That actually explains a lot.
"The story so far: In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." -- Douglas Adams
- deacon blues
- Posts: 2083
- Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:37 am
Re: Origin of Kolob



God is Love. God is Truth. The greatest problem with organized religion is that the organization becomes god, rather than a means of serving God.
- slavereeno
- Posts: 1247
- Joined: Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:30 am
- Location: QC, AZ
Re: Origin of Kolob
Wow, now I want to take a peek at those books
Re: Origin of Kolob
Spelling based on pronunciation seems the stuff of Daniel Webster and American know-how. This is just another example of Joseph's genius of taking ideas from different sources and synthesizing them into something new.Just This Guy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:28 pm So you are saying that all the really nutty doctrine came from bad Hebrew translations from someone who couldn't spell? That actually explains a lot.
Good faith does not require evidence, but it also does not turn a blind eye to that evidence. Otherwise, it becomes misplaced faith.
-- Moksha
-- Moksha
Re: Origin of Kolob

“The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also.” -Mark Twain
Jesus: "The Kingdom of God is within you." The Buddha: "Be your own light."
Jesus: "The Kingdom of God is within you." The Buddha: "Be your own light."
Re: Origin of Kolob
You know... it always bugged me that a supermassive star would be referred to as "governing ones" because massive stars like that have fluctuations that create anything but a steady orbit. The reason small stars like our sun have a Goldilocks zone is because they lack the mass to cause significant orbital events. It's why earth's aphelion and parahelion never change, nor do any planets in our solar system. Astrophysicists know this isn't true about red giants and they have nowhere near the mass of something like YV Canis Majoris. A star such as Kolob would also draw just about anything that could receive its heat into itself. Its gravity would far outreach its radiance in that regard, or so I'm given to understand (I suppose different stars of equal size have different densities and magnitudes but dense bright stars tend to be a lot smaller).
None of this knowledge "busted" Kolob but it did make me have to specially plead for the star's existence, and I resent having done that today. I made enough of my own apologist arguments to myself that I should write them down and publish them one day. I should make a thread about that...
None of this knowledge "busted" Kolob but it did make me have to specially plead for the star's existence, and I resent having done that today. I made enough of my own apologist arguments to myself that I should write them down and publish them one day. I should make a thread about that...
Free will is a golden thread flowing through the matrix of fixed events.
Re: Origin of Kolob
Did anyone mention the Grand Key?


Good faith does not require evidence, but it also does not turn a blind eye to that evidence. Otherwise, it becomes misplaced faith.
-- Moksha
-- Moksha