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Common knowledge assumption:

The "coca" in Coca Cola is short for cocaine.

Coca Cola did not become cocaine-free until 1929.

Why no mention in conference talks?

Why no banning of this substance or other sodas to avoid the appearance of evil? It would have been a good idea to ban soda at this point, actually.

Give It Time wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:12 am Common knowledge assumption:

The "coca" in Coca Cola is short for cocaine.

Coca Cola did not become cocaine-free until 1929.

Why no mention in conference talks?

Why no banning of this substance or other sodas to avoid the appearance of evil? It would have been a good idea to ban soda at this point, actually.

What?! Do you expect the Prophets and Apostles to be led by revelation, and not just rely on the same knowledge every other human has?! You expect too much and should repent to show proper support for your leaders! [/sarcasm]

The Church was far too busy reeling from polygamy and the fallout at that time. It was only afterwards that the Word of Wisdom became a major aspect of the Mormon experience.

It was used as an anesthetic in the medical community for a long time

http://www.history.com/topics/history-of-cocaine

I think our present notion of illegal drugs is very different from society's notion of illegal drugs in the early 20th century.

MoPag wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:44 pm It was used as an anesthetic in the medical community for a long time

http://www.history.com/topics/history-of-cocaine

I think our present notion of illegal drugs is very different from society's notion of illegal drugs in the early 20th century.

I agree. I think the reason for that is they weren't aware of a lot of the negative side effects.

Give It Time wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:51 pm

MoPag wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:44 pm It was used as an anesthetic in the medical community for a long time

http://www.history.com/topics/history-of-cocaine

I think our present notion of illegal drugs is very different from society's notion of illegal drugs in the early 20th century.

I agree. I think the reason for that is they weren't aware of a lot of the negative side effects.

Cinemax had this great show called The Knick https://www.cinemax.com/the-knick/

It's about a hospital in New York in the early 1900s. Cocaine was a big part of how they treated people. But it also got to be a very big problem.

Is there such a thing as diet coke(caine)?

MoPag wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:57 pm

Give It Time wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:51 pm

MoPag wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:44 pm It was used as an anesthetic in the medical community for a long time

http://www.history.com/topics/history-of-cocaine

I think our present notion of illegal drugs is very different from society's notion of illegal drugs in the early 20th century.

I agree. I think the reason for that is they weren't aware of a lot of the negative side effects.

Cinemax had this great show called The Knick https://www.cinemax.com/the-knick/


It's about a hospital in New York in the early 1900s. Cocaine was a big part of how they treated people. But it also got to be a very big problem.

I can imagine.

As for the Diet Coke(caine), I think that response enters the Moksha-Moksha-level creativity.

If LDS leadership were to start expounding any detailed science of the Word of Wisdom, it would have made sense to mention the cocaine in Coca-cola at one point. But that time is long past and decades of caffeine demonization have only made expounding this doctrine more problematic. Caffeine was finally (and grudgingly) allowed on campus at BYU-P. This made many people absolutely lose their minds, almost as if the church had sanctioned premarital sex.

The Word of Wisdom is taught literally as "The Lord’s Law of Health", yet it strictly forbids green team. This makes no sense on so many levels since Red Bull, Monster, and Amp are all quite allowed. It is hard to argue that the Word of Wisdom is anything but a virtue signalling test of obedience any longer.

Corsair wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:43 pm If LDS leadership were to start expounding any detailed science of the Word of Wisdom, it would have made sense to mention the cocaine in Coca-cola at one point. But that time is long past and decades of caffeine demonization have only made expounding this doctrine more problematic. Caffeine was finally (and grudgingly) allowed on campus at BYU-P. This made many people absolutely lose their minds, almost as if the church had sanctioned premarital sex.

Cola and foreplay. Sounds sticky.

Corsair wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:43 pm The Word of Wisdom is taught literally as "The Lord’s Law of Health", yet it strictly forbids green team. This makes no sense on so many levels since Red Bull, Monster, and Amp are all quite allowed. It is hard to argue that the Word of Wisdom is anything but a virtue signalling test of obedience any longer.

It was so good, after having lost my testimony, to look at this and not have to twist my mind around it, anymore.

Caffeinated soda was as bad as cocaine in my family growing up. I remember once having a few swallows of Mtn. Dew as a kid, like maybe when i was 9 or so. It tasted so good, but I felt so guilty. I confessed to my parents who assured me the guilt I was feeling was because I had sinned.

Kind of funny because I think all or most of me and my siblings drink Caffeinated sodas as adults. My mom was still on the rampage about it into my early 40s, to the point that we hid our soda when she came to visit. We finally wore her out and she stopped saying anything about it.

1smartdodog wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:58 pm Is there such a thing as diet coke(caine)?

Depends on what 's used to cut it. If it's cut with an alkaloid you can move it as full undiluted product, basically, but if you use a detergent of a bulking agent nobody is going to shell out as much for it. This is often referred to by the powderpuffs as "diet".

Mad Jax wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:41 pm

1smartdodog wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:58 pm Is there such a thing as diet coke(caine)?

Depends on what 's used to cut it. If it's cut with an alkaloid you can move it as full undiluted product, basically, but if you use a detergent of a bulking agent nobody is going to shell out as much for it. This is often referred to by the powderpuffs as "diet".

Here's me.


The less I know about my beloved Diet Coke, the better. Should have realized. I asked.

BTW, I don't look like the woman in the picture. I used to. Long ago in a galaxy far, far away.