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Is Immanuel really a name for Jesus?
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:12 am
by Korihor
I know the scriptures prophecy of their "savior" being called Immanuel
Matt 1:23 Isaiah 7:14
But outside of these verses and a couple lip service quotes, Was he ever called Immanuel? Why does he have so
I don't understand how his name could be both Jesus and Immanuel? Why is Immanuel never actually used?
Also, the name of Jesus Christ and the name of TCOJCOLDS is kinda goofy.
It the same thing as The Church of Tommy The Awesome of Latter-Day Republicans
Did the JS just not understand words very well or does God have a hard time translating Adamic into English?
Re: Is Immanuel really a name for Jesus?
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 10:16 am
by deacon blues
I'm reminded that the church changed its name a couple of times. No big deal, really, unless you believe in the BOM.
Re: Is Immanuel really a name for Jesus?
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 10:42 am
by alas
Immanuel is not a name as much as it is another title. Like Christ means "King", Immanuel I think means "God with us" so it was a title meaning that Jesus was God incarnate.
Re: Is Immanuel really a name for Jesus?
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 10:55 am
by wtfluff
This is how whoever wrote the gospels (since we don't actually know who they were) re-wrote "history" so that Jesus could fulfill some of the old-testament "prophecies", even though those prophecies had nothing to do with Jesus.
Instead of writing down actual history, they wrote down what they "thought" should have happened. That's why all of the gospels are so different, and that's why there are so many contradictions in the gospels
Re: Is Immanuel really a name for Jesus?
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:00 pm
by moksha
When Frodo became the ring-bearer, his name still was Frodo - even though he became the savior of Middle Earth. Hope that helps.
BTW, there is no truth to the rumor that once Frodo arrived in Valinor he changed his name to Irving.
Re: Is Immanuel really a name for Jesus?
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 1:00 am
by asa
Alas is partially correct. The term Immanuel literally means in Hebrew "God with us" or "God among us". The"el" is the same grammatical element we see in Elohim or Michael meaning "God". Michael means literally one like unto God. Thus Immanuel is in the nature of a title not a personal name. The Savior could never have used that name as a personnel name because both he and his parents would have been Stoned to death for blasphemy. However Christ does not mean king. It is the Greek form of the Hebrew word ( Messiah) for anointed one. Each king of Israel was anointed by the prophet with oil and set apart for his new office. We continue that tradition in the West today. Queen Elizabeth II was anointed by the Archbishop of Canterbury when she became queen in 1953. If you watch the film you can see when it happens.
Re: Is Immanuel really a name for Jesus?
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:48 pm
by GoodBoy
moksha wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:00 pm
When Frodo became the
ring-bearer, his name still was Frodo - even though he became the savior of Middle Earth. Hope that helps.
BTW, there is no truth to the rumor that once Frodo arrived in Valinor he changed his name to Irving.
Moksha... you are awesome.
Jesus has so many different names because there were so many different prophesies and traditions that Jesus was force-fit into.
Re: Is Immanuel really a name for Jesus?
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:07 pm
by Mad Jax
moksha wrote: ↑Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:00 pm
When Frodo became the
ring-bearer, his name still was Frodo - even though he became the savior of Middle Earth. Hope that helps.
BTW, there is no truth to the rumor that once Frodo arrived in Valinor he changed his name to Irving.
I was excommunicated for following the Morgoth-Frodo Doctrine where the ring bearer was the incarnate being of the master of darkness.
Re: Is Immanuel really a name for Jesus?
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:41 pm
by wtfluff
GoodBoy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2017 2:48 pm
Jesus has so many different names because there were so many different prophesies and traditions that Jesus was force-fit into.
I love that sentence GoodBoy: "The New Testament: Force-Fit-Fulfillment of Prophecy and Tradition."