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I know you are right. The church wants nothing to do with polygamy, among the living at least. I don't want anything to do with polygamy in either life. But I wonder what will happen in the future. If I understand correctly, polygamy is decriminalized. I suspect that if Reynolds vs. United States went before the current supreme court, it would go the other way. TV shows that depict "normal" polygamist families are reasonably popular. Sooner or later, polygamy as a consensual practice will be completely legal, I believe. (I am trying to distinguish between consenting adults who agree to live in such an arrangement from fraudulent practices and those that force young women into the practice. The latter two will be prosecuted, I hope.)
At least now it would be somewhat accurate. Modern polygamists would be taking care of church widows and church orphans. These would be the remaining faithful women and children who lost their husbands and fathers due to apostasy and lack of support of mixed faith marriages from LDS leadership. It's not a physical death from starvation or exposure due to crossing the plains too late in the season. It's spiritual death where, ironically, the missing husbands are technically still around, but LDS leadership does not want their heretical influence on faithful tithe payers.
I've had the same thought many times. I had a seminary teacher who assured us that polygamy and animal sacrifice would absolutely be reinstated in our day. I can't wait.MerrieMiss wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2017 4:58 pm Sometimes I hope the church reinstates polygamy, among other things (law of consecration, migrate to Missouri, etc). A lot of the support members give such historical practices is a lot of talk. Sure, there are some die hards who would love it, but I think it would make a lot of people think twice about things. I'm pretty sure my husband would have some serious issues with it.
You be careful, if wives 2-9 start outsourcing their share of the labor, you've got a full-blown pyramid scheme on your hands!Red Ryder wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2017 3:57 pm My wife is on board as long as:
Wife #2 cooks
Wife #3 cleans
Wife #4 does laundry
Wife #5 takes care of the children
Wife #6 does the grocery shopping
Wife #7 drives everyone around
Wife #8 is her best friend
Wife #9 is her sister
Wife #10 is Brad Pitt
Her only stipulation is that I can't sleep with or consummate the marriage with the first 9 wives yet she can with wife #10.
Silly Brent,
The absurdity of the argument that these passages imply that a man should have but one wife, is evident from the previous verse, that the kings of Israel should "not multiply horses to themselves." No one would be so unreasonable as to suppose that the Lord designed to limit the kings of Israel to one horse.
(As compiled by Apostle Franklin D. Richards, A Compendium of the Doctrines of the Gospel)
No, silly man. Wives are not like horses, they are like cows. After all Kimble said the he puts no more thought into taking another wife than he does into buying another cow.Zack Tacorin Dos wrote: ↑Fri May 19, 2017 10:45 amSilly Brent,
Wives aren't like bees; they're like horses.The absurdity of the argument that these passages imply that a man should have but one wife, is evident from the previous verse, that the kings of Israel should "not multiply horses to themselves." No one would be so unreasonable as to suppose that the Lord designed to limit the kings of Israel to one horse.
(As compiled by Apostle Franklin D. Richards, A Compendium of the Doctrines of the Gospel)
Zack Tacorin Dos wrote: ↑Fri May 19, 2017 10:45 amSilly Brent,
Wives aren't like bees; they're like horses.The absurdity of the argument that these passages imply that a man should have but one wife, is evident from the previous verse, that the kings of Israel should "not multiply horses to themselves." No one would be so unreasonable as to suppose that the Lord designed to limit the kings of Israel to one horse.
(As compiled by Apostle Franklin D. Richards, A Compendium of the Doctrines of the Gospel)
Not to mention that Kimball then offered up his 14 year old daughter. After Joseph said, "just kidding, I really didn't want your wife, it was only a test...." Kimball was like, "Oh, ok....well how about my little girl, would you like her for a wife?"alas wrote: ↑Fri May 19, 2017 1:27 pm No, silly man. Wives are not like horses, they are like cows. After all Kimble said the he puts no more thought into taking another wife than he does into buying another cow.
The transformation from the guy who couldn't abide the thought of sharing his precious Violet, into the jerk who thinks of women as cows is sickening.
Aw C'mon Allie, didn't you read the essay? Helen became a great advocate and defender of polygamy, as is obvious from her own writings much later in life:
“My father had but one Ewe Lamb, but willingly laid her upon the alter: how cruel this seamed to the mother whose heartstrings were already stretched untill they were ready to snap asunder, for he had taken Sarah Noon to wife & she thought she had made sufficient sacrafise, but the Lord required more… I will pass over the temptations which I had during the twenty four hours after my father introduced to me this principle & asked me if I would be sealed to Joseph, who came next morning & with my parents I heard him teach & explain the principle of Celestial marrage -- after which he said to me, “If you will take this step, it will ensure your eternal salvation and exaltation & that of your father’s household & all of your kindred.” This promise was so great that I willingly gave myself to purchase so glorious a reward."
Reminds me of a favorite scene in The Adams Family (dating myself here). Morticia suspects Gomez of having another woman, possibly another wife. She is looking at a large legal book.LaMachina wrote: ↑Mon May 15, 2017 8:38 pm First of all, no one REALLY believes that was the reason for polygamy. That's just the story they'd tell questioning young people much the same way they'd say Jesus was really turning water into grape juice. Sure, maybe they'd almost convince themselves the story was true but deep down they knew.
Secondly, a quick story from my youth. My father was a tradesman and I worked many summers with him. We often crossed paths with other tradesman, all nice guys but many falling into that certain rough around the edges stereotype. Many times during long days a Coke was offered or occasionally a beer. My father always turned it down which would be met with questions, sometimes directly of "are you Mormon or something?" He, of course, always answered in the affirmative and many, many times someone would get that leering grin and ask "how many wives you got?" and they would insinuate a jealousy at Mormon men and their good fortune. My father always answered the same way; he would guffaw and exclaim "You can't even handle the wife you got!?! What are you gonna do with two??"
Now, his answer could be deemed sexist (he was an older generation with a different point of view on these matters) but there was a certain wisdom there. Polygamy opens a can of worms the church likely never wants to touch again beyond that safe zone of whatever happens after we're dead.