MoPag wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:43 pm
Tomorrow we will hear all about how we must prepare to listen to our living prophet and the 12 apostles,(who are also somehow prophets, seers and revelators?
?).
These are really fun!
I don't plan to watch, at all, but will be interested in seeing the fallout.
The reason I pulled out this statement is I want to know when this happened. I grew up in Salt Lake in the same neighborhood as the apostles and prophet. The prophet was the prophet. The apostles were the apostles. Period. It made things less confusing. If two of the Q15 disagreed (and they did), it as a simple matter of asking myself apostle or prophet. If it was the prophet, the prophet won. If the disagreement was between two apostles, I would reason this way. They are called
General Authorities. They give general advice. They aren't called Specific Authorities. When two disagree, I look at the two statements and choose the one that is a better fit for my specific life. It's called teaching them correct principles and letting them govern themselves.
I didn't rank the apostles. They were all equal in my mind. I might pay special attention to the senior apostle, because he was an indicator of how the church could go in the future, if he outlived the sitting prophet, so he might not ascend the throne. At the end of the day, the prophet was the prophet (PSR) and the apostles were messengers.
This view of making them all PSRs wasn't something I encountered until I went to the Y. I thought it was cultural. I noticed it was a view most commonly held by Californians. They thought I was some evil Jezebel until I'd tell them Monson, Kimball, Mckonkie, Oaks, Nelson, etc. were all my parents' neighbors.
Lo and behold, I come across recent talks stating they are all PSRs. This was news to me! I see people tie themselves into sailor knots trying to obey fifteen or more masters. Even with the current teaching of their all being PSRs, I still use my old guideline. Much simpler.
I've recently reconnected with old classmates on Facebook. My sister still lives in that area. The church is different there. It's much more flexible. Much more open. Much more tolerant of differing views (to a degree). A lot of young people move to that area, driving up the home prices, because they want to get on the apostle track. I think it might be worth being in the same area as the apostles simply because they seem to be much more tolerant, much more open. Alas,
trop cher.
At 70 years-old, my older self would tell my younger self to use the words, "f*ck off" much more frequently. --Helen Mirren
