Re: NOMference Saturday afternoon Fall 2023
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2023 2:37 pm
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That's horrible!!!alas wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:50 pm About senior missionaries, hubby and I have a relative who is on a senior mission with her husband. They kind of complained that they have them working 18 hour days, 6 days a week, and Sunday too if a car needs work so the important people can use it. Retired seniors working 18 hours. And his is not an office job. He maintains the fleet of automobiles used by the mission. He is responsible for keeping the cars maintained, change the oil, make repairs, and so on. Oh, he has an assistant to do some of the harder physical stuff, like lugging tires around to rotate them, and crawl under for oil change. The tools are no more than a regular guy would have in his home garage, so he is doing all basic maintenance on some 30 cars, without the professional tools a real mechanic would have. In real life, he was a white collar professional. Now he is a beginning level auto mechanic for free at about 100+ hours a week and paying good money so the church doesn’t have to hire someone. They are both exhausted. Even my TBM husband used the word “abuse” and was angry about it. People in their late 60s-70s should not be working those kind of hours in a physically exhausting job. The church abuses volunteers.
Not that I typically read an email from the ward EQ Pres, but I received one today that said the church handbook indicates that EQ lessons should be based on the latest general conf talks. I thought that was very interesting. It seems like if you're the current boss, you can start getting the whole company to start reading and quoting you. Where's the check and balance in God's kingdom on earth? If things start going south, how does God right the ship? Killing off bad leaders until you get to the one you want?lostinmiddlemormonism wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 1:25 pm I'm not trying to be funny or anything, but has there been a single talk yet this conference that doesn't quote Rusty? Is this a new requirement? If you are going to speak in conference you better find away to include Rusty in the talk. Sheesh!
Wow! That's horrible!alas wrote: ↑Sat Sep 30, 2023 3:50 pm About senior missionaries, hubby and I have a relative who is on a senior mission with her husband. They kind of complained that they have them working 18 hour days, 6 days a week, and Sunday too if a car needs work so the important people can use it. Retired seniors working 18 hours. And his is not an office job. He maintains the fleet of automobiles used by the mission. He is responsible for keeping the cars maintained, change the oil, make repairs, and so on. Oh, he has an assistant to do some of the harder physical stuff, like lugging tires around to rotate them, and crawl under for oil change. The tools are no more than a regular guy would have in his home garage, so he is doing all basic maintenance on some 30 cars, without the professional tools a real mechanic would have. In real life, he was a white collar professional. Now he is a beginning level auto mechanic for free at about 100+ hours a week and paying good money so the church doesn’t have to hire someone. They are both exhausted. Even my TBM husband used the word “abuse” and was angry about it. People in their late 60s-70s should not be working those kind of hours in a physically exhausting job. The church abuses volunteers.
Church Newsroom wrote:Speakers who quote President Nelson in their Conference talks are eligible for a 10% tithing deduction, for this year only.