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jfro18 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:11 am I would've sworn the mission length was a rumor last October and people were claiming their calls were on hold until conference and then nothing happened.

But as has been stated a bunch of times - if this was really happening we'd have screenshots of the calls floating around and yet there are none.

I'd be surprised if they dropped the length for men to 18 months, but maybe they'll do something like make it an option... that way they don't have to feel like they've completely caved to a generation that just isn't sticking around for the church's BS like the ones before it.

alas wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:49 am He had one client in trouble with his bishop for not wearing Gs properly because of his colonostomy bag.

Kishkumen wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:16 am A new rumor - guaranteed fresh and unique!!!

I heard from a friend of a friend of GA's assistant of someone in the same ward as.... you get the idea. So this is totally unsubstantiated, however, I think this is a good rumor and it almost passes the sniff test "Hey, this is actually in the realm of possibilities".

It goes something like this: If you think there are a lot of temples now, in 5 years they could more than double the number of temples. RMN is busy working on some new ideas and said "add a zero to the number of current temples".

My first reaction was WTH? Temples take many years to plan and build and dedicate. The TBM's might not be aware, but most of us are painfully aware that temples are very expensive and patron attendance is less than ideal. They could never double the number of temples with current practices in 5 years. That's exactly the point - they wouldn't do it with current practices. RMN is getting creative.

They already have approximately 2000+ buildings spread throughout the world that help get them to double the number of temples (or more) - Stake Centers. They could do some remodelling and dedicate part of a stake center to perform some of the responsibility of temples. Stake Centers are already interpreted as a satellite temple location when dedicating a temple. They already have a baptismal font. Many Stakes Centers are becoming underutilized.

It seems to make sense to me that this is in the realm of possibilities, much more so than allowing coffee or tea. They could give the appearance of ongoing revelation, spark interest in local meetinghouses with the remodels and ease the travel burdens on people with large geographic distances.

Kishkumen wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:16 am It goes something like this: If you think there are a lot of temples now, in 5 years they could more than double the number of temples. RMN is busy working on some new ideas and said "add a zero to the number of current temples".

2bizE wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2019 11:34 am I can picture in my mind a neon sign out side of the Stake building saying:
Currently functioning as a: when if it a church, the word church lights up in Red. If it’s a temple, lights up in Blue.
Sort of like the Krispy Kreme sign when there are hot doughnuts.

Kishkumen wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:16 am ...in 5 years they could more than double the number of temples.

Kishkumen wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:16 am A new rumor - guaranteed fresh and unique!!!

I heard from a friend of a friend of GA's assistant of someone in the same ward as.... you get the idea. So this is totally unsubstantiated, however, I think this is a good rumor and it almost passes the sniff test "Hey, this is actually in the realm of possibilities".

It goes something like this: If you think there are a lot of temples now, in 5 years they could more than double the number of temples. RMN is busy working on some new ideas and said "add a zero to the number of current temples".

My first reaction was WTH? Temples take many years to plan and build and dedicate. The TBM's might not be aware, but most of us are painfully aware that temples are very expensive and patron attendance is less than ideal. They could never double the number of temples with current practices in 5 years. That's exactly the point - they wouldn't do it with current practices. RMN is getting creative.

They already have approximately 2000+ buildings spread throughout the world that help get them to double the number of temples (or more) - Stake Centers. They could do some remodelling and dedicate part of a stake center to perform some of the responsibility of temples. Stake Centers are already interpreted as a satellite temple location when dedicating a temple. They already have a baptismal font. Many Stakes Centers are becoming underutilized.

It seems to make sense to me that this is in the realm of possibilities, much more so than allowing coffee or tea. They could give the appearance of ongoing revelation, spark interest in local meetinghouses with the remodels and ease the travel burdens on people with large geographic distances.

1smartdodog wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2019 4:11 pm

Kishkumen wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:16 am A new rumor - guaranteed fresh and unique!!!

I heard from a friend of a friend of GA's assistant of someone in the same ward as.... you get the idea. So this is totally unsubstantiated, however, I think this is a good rumor and it almost passes the sniff test "Hey, this is actually in the realm of possibilities".

It goes something like this: If you think there are a lot of temples now, in 5 years they could more than double the number of temples. RMN is busy working on some new ideas and said "add a zero to the number of current temples".

My first reaction was WTH? Temples take many years to plan and build and dedicate. The TBM's might not be aware, but most of us are painfully aware that temples are very expensive and patron attendance is less than ideal. They could never double the number of temples with current practices in 5 years. That's exactly the point - they wouldn't do it with current practices. RMN is getting creative.

They already have approximately 2000+ buildings spread throughout the world that help get them to double the number of temples (or more) - Stake Centers. They could do some remodelling and dedicate part of a stake center to perform some of the responsibility of temples. Stake Centers are already interpreted as a satellite temple location when dedicating a temple. They already have a baptismal font. Many Stakes Centers are becoming underutilized.

It seems to make sense to me that this is in the realm of possibilities, much more so than allowing coffee or tea. They could give the appearance of ongoing revelation, spark interest in local meetinghouses with the remodels and ease the travel burdens on people with large geographic distances.

I think the flaw with this is more temples will just dilute attendance at the current ones. If it is true they have a hard time filling sessions at temples now how are more temples going to help?

Of course they could make temple attendance mandatory to have a temple recommend. Say once a month to keep your recommend. It would be like a perpetual motion machine, got to go to the temple so I can continue to go.

1smartdodog wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2019 4:11 pm I think the flaw with this is more temples will just dilute attendance at the current ones. If it is true they have a hard time filling sessions at temples now how are more temples going to help?

no1saint wrote: ↑Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:04 pm They are going to wank on relentlessly about the miracle of the Rome Temple....wank wank wank...apostolic succession...wank wank wank...keys and bla bla bla...the Pope is nice but we are the champions...wank wank wank...Vatican has never known so much Priesthood authority ever...wank wank wank and collective morgasm.

Vomit.

jfro18 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:23 am The WoW rumors seem to be really hitting TBMs for this conference... I will be shocked if they allow coffee/tea, but I think it would be HILARIOUS if they do.

D&C89 wrote:
1 A Word of Wisdom, for the benefit of the council of high priests, assembled in Kirtland, and the church, and also the saints in Zion—

2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint, but by revelation and the word of wisdom, showing forth the order and will of God in the temporal salvation of all saints in the last days—

3 Given for a principle with promise, adapted to the capacity of the weak and the weakest of all saints, who are or can be called saints.

D&C89:17 wrote: Nevertheless, wheat for man, and corn for the ox, and oats for the horse, and rye for the fowls and for swine, and for all beasts of the field, and barley for all useful animals, and for mild drinks, as also other grain.

DPRoberts wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:12 pm Think about RMN’s supposed “revelation” about the name of the church and where it comes from. It comes from the foundational revelations of eventhechurchofjesuchristoflatterdaysaints. A similar thing could be done with the WoW. Taking the WoW exactly as it states in the first three verses you get that 1) it is NOT a commandment, and 2) it is for the benefit of, and by extension only applies to, “saints” aka members.