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Re: Latest Example of Nepotism in the Church

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:13 am
by moksha
GoodBoy wrote: Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:52 pm So this guy skipped from step 3 to step 11.
Obviously, they were looking for a guy who could relate.

Re: Latest Example of Nepotism in the Church

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:38 am
by document
You are forgetting, he was born of goodly parents and thus was foreordained. Nepotism exists in the LDS church because it is 100% doctrinal. God puts the elect into families that will help them reach their full potential. What greater position then could the fore-ordained get into than the son of an apostle or prophet?

He _is_ amazing because he was so amazing in the pre-existence that he was born of such goodly parents they could be in the top 3 of goodly parents.

Re: Latest Example of Nepotism in the Church

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 11:30 am
by oliver_denom
I thought about this post today while listening to Dehlin's interview of Ruthie Robertson.

I think nepotism as demonstrated with Eyring's appointment is a clear signal that the church is taking a harder turn to the right and doubling down on its authoritarian positions. When an organization feels like its under siege, it appoints people that can be trusted absolutely. For an outside example, we can look at the Trump administration who has bypassed normal rules and standards of merit by assigning top advisory positions to direct family. If they were to signal an internal change, then they'd be adding diversity to church leadership instead of maintaining the status quo.

This was definitely the message when Rasband, Stevenson, and Renlund were brought into the quorum. Unlike Hinckley who seemed to express some discomfort over his son being called as a GA, I think the top leadership has abandoned all pretense, and is diligently working to fill the church from top to bottom with 100% solid yes men.

When Eyring signs off on the firing of this professor at BYUI, then who is he really performing for? Is he worried about the press or the chilling effect on faculty and staff? Or is his audience really the handful of apostles he represents? In any place where the church has sufficient control, it appears indistinguishable from hereditary monarchy.

Re: Latest Example of Nepotism in the Church

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:48 am
by Emower
Up until now I haven't been too bothered to have byui on my transcript and resume. Now however I almost Cant even wear the t-shirts I had to buy to use the dang gym.

Re: Latest Example of Nepotism in the Church

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:55 am
by Corsair
Emower wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:48 am Up until now I haven't been too bothered to have byui on my transcript and resume. Now however I almost Cant even wear the t-shirts I had to buy to use the dang gym.
In my experience, few people actually care that you attended a BYU school. Outsiders usually don't think it is dramatically different than having Notre Dame, Grand Canyon, Loyola, or DePaul as your Alma Mater. No one really cares. However, I admit to a general feeling of relief that I graduated from Arizona State.

Re: Latest Example of Nepotism in the Church

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:18 pm
by Thoughtful
Corsair wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:55 am
Emower wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:48 am Up until now I haven't been too bothered to have byui on my transcript and resume. Now however I almost Cant even wear the t-shirts I had to buy to use the dang gym.
In my experience, few people actually care that you attended a BYU school. Outsiders usually don't think it is dramatically different than having Notre Dame, Grand Canyon, Loyola, or DePaul as your Alma Mater. No one really cares. However, I admit to a general feeling of relief that I graduated from Arizona State.
My BYU social sciences degree has been well regarded. I'm in a neighboring state, but it's viewed as a high quality private education. No issues whatsoever. I hope the church pulls it's head out before that changes.