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Red Ryder wrote:
I'd love some ideas to get the wife out of hers. Would it be too cruel to roll hers around in some attic insulation before folding them with the laundry?

Genius. Maybe preface this with a discussion abut how we should ask by prayer if the garment is true. "I don't know Honey, maybe this is the answer from God..." This end to garment wearing wouldn't be much more dishonest than how it started.

glass shelf wrote:Nope. I don't wonder about your creepy underwear.

Ha! I love it. Gonna have to try and remember to use that one "in my daily life".


Oh, and... Does anyone think my wife will wonder about that giant bag of attic insulation in the laundry room?

Yeah, the Church isn't weird, it's perfectly normal for a religious organization to tell its members what kind of underwear they have to wear and ask you every two years if you are wearing it night and day.

I still wear garments like many of you to avoid the meltdown my wife would have, but hate them hate them hate them. It is a strange fate to long for the day that you can wear normal underwear, and I may have to outlive my wife to do it.

P.S. Thanks a lot Joseph Smith - because of you when my wife undresses I get to see the unsexiest underwear in existence. For that alone I will hate you for the eternities.

Not Buying It wrote:P.S. Thanks a lot Joseph Smith - because of you when my wife undresses I get to see the unsexiest underwear in existence. For that alone I will hate you for the eternities.

No kidding. How is it that a man with 30+ wives nearly 200 years ago can cause such heartache and grief to a man with 1 wife today?

I too will hate him for the eternities!!

It comes in white too:

The good old G's. Such a conversation topic whether you're a believer or not.

I was hesitant to stop wearing them for a while. I had my shelf break last summer and I mostly stopped wearing the a few months ago. One main reason I continued wearing them for as long as I did was to maintain commonality with Mrs Kori. But after wearing heathen underbritches and realizing what I had been missing my entire life, it was very hard to go back and forth between G's and Satan's Support.

Chaffing has virtually been eliminated in my life. The G's bottoms are absolutely terrible now that I know better.
Even as a TBM, I didn't wear the top while sleeping. I don't have much concern with wearing it as an undershirt, but I couldn't stand sleeping in it. I felt like I was being strangled and woke it with it twisted backwards every night.

I still wear G's if we don't do laundry in time. I don't have a lot of heathen apparel yet, by my wardrobe is growing.

Now I find G's top to be terrible because they are either too short or too long. If they are too short, they come untucked from my pant waist by my dress shirt remains tucked in. This results in an excessive bunching of the Garment inside the dress shirt just above the pant waist- making the dress shirt poofy at the waist area.

Of couse I could afford to lose a few pounds and that would likely help wit the problem.

At any rate, I'm done playing stupid games with underwear of all things and I'm gonna use what I want. I'm trying to slowly edge Mrs. Kori to stop wearing them, but she simply likes them (which baffles me). So this could be tricky. Also, Mrs Kori is rather ....um.... frugal with certain things. She couldn't justify going out and buying heathen underwear when she has perfectly good polygamy underwear at home - such a waste.

Lastly, we are spending Christmas with my folks this year, it's a big family get together and Korihor isn't going to be lounging around in G's. I'm sure it will garner some raised eyebrows but I glad to represent!

Korihor wrote:Chaffing has virtually been eliminated in my life. The G's bottoms are absolutely terrible now that I know better.

Yes! Yes! Exactly this. Chafing was the bane of my existence during all those years in Gs.

Enoch Witty wrote:

Korihor wrote:Chaffing has virtually been eliminated in my life. The G's bottoms are absolutely terrible now that I know better.

Yes! Yes! Exactly this. Chafing was the bane of my existence during all those years in Gs.

Chaffing is the worst. I ride motorcycles as a hobby and G's are the worst possible base layer. Those two large seams are the work of Satan. A while ago, while still TBM, I bought some motocross compression under shorts. It has a 1/4" memory foam liner in the 'ahem' nether regions and a compression spandex everyone else. A day on the trails wearing these was truly a blessing after years of torture because I thought I could reasonable wear garments for that activity. No matter how much better wearing appropriate gear felt, I still had guilt that I wasn't wearing G's. I still wore the top just to be on the safe side.

I took my bike out this last weekend and donned my riding shorts. Since we have little ones I haven't been riding much. Those things were so comfortable that I wore them the rest of the day and night.

Note: I stopped wearing G's a few months ago. Normal underwear is a million times better than G's, but my riding shorts must be what we wear in the celestial kingdom.

August 2011 I became a non believer. October 2011 I grabbed all my garments and put them in a trash bag. I then put them in the trash can on the side of my house. Wearing two shirts sucks. And having normal boxers is much more comfortable.

I had no special interest in them. I left magical thinking behind. In all fairness and honesty, it was very therapeutic.

That's when my tbm wife new this was bad. I told her I may resign in the future, and I did 7 months later.

In retrospect I think I hit the gas pedal a little to fast for my wife's liking. I should have eased into it a little more. But that's how my personality is. It's all in or all out. Once I come to a conclusion on something, it's on,and I don't look back.

Thanks for all the replies. It is helpful to see what everybody's reason is for keeping them or chucking them. I feel weird for not believing in what the G's stand for, but yet still have a hard time taking them off. There definitely is something to be said for conditioning by repetition.

MoPag wrote:Okay, So I'm weird.

I actually like wearing them. I did try not wearing them for a while, but regular undies always give me wedgies. I never get wedgies with garms. Also it's nice to have an extra layer between my bra underwire and my boobs. Random underwire boob jabs are not fun. I did buy a spool of underwear elastic and, as soon as I get a free minute, I'm going to lower the waist lines to normal underwear waist height. Maybe I will start a black market, under ground, garment altering business.

I always hated the tops but I have to admit that I really like the bottoms. It probably has something to do with the way I'm shaped, but I don't get wedgies (exactly, MoPag) and my legs don't rub together. If I'm spending all day outdoors somewhere hot, like an amusement park or something, I usually slip on an old pair of the bottoms because they are more comfortable under my jeans. I don't ever wear shorts, so maybe that's something to do with it too. I actually went and bought a couple bottoms just before my last TR expired so I'd have them in case of need.

Korihor, you should tell Mrs. Kori that she can be frugal by doing what my mother always did - cutting out the symbols and using them as rags around the house. I can't tell you how many times I've dusted the piano with my father's undershorts...

Jinx wrote:

MoPag wrote:Okay, So I'm weird.

I actually like wearing them. I did try not wearing them for a while, but regular undies always give me wedgies. I never get wedgies with garms. Also it's nice to have an extra layer between my bra underwire and my boobs. Random underwire boob jabs are not fun. I did buy a spool of underwear elastic and, as soon as I get a free minute, I'm going to lower the waist lines to normal underwear waist height. Maybe I will start a black market, under ground, garment altering business.

I always hated the tops but I have to admit that I really like the bottoms. It probably has something to do with the way I'm shaped, but I don't get wedgies (exactly, MoPag) and my legs don't rub together. If I'm spending all day outdoors somewhere hot, like an amusement park or something, I usually slip on an old pair of the bottoms because they are more comfortable under my jeans. I don't ever wear shorts, so maybe that's something to do with it too. I actually went and bought a couple bottoms just before my last TR expired so I'd have them in case of need.

I like the bottoms too. I tried several different kinds of underwear when I got rid of (all but two pairs) of garments. The ones I ended up buying are a lot like garment bottoms, except they only come to mid-thigh and in a variety of color.s The two garment bottoms that I didn't get rid of are actually the most comfortable I own.

I never wear the darned tops any more, though.

MoPag wrote:Okay, So I'm weird.

I actually like wearing them. I did try not wearing them for a while, but regular undies always give me wedgies. I never get wedgies with garms. Also it's nice to have an extra layer between my bra underwire and my boobs. Random underwire boob jabs are not fun. I did buy a spool of underwear elastic and, as soon as I get a free minute, I'm going to lower the waist lines to normal underwear waist height. Maybe I will start a black market, under ground, garment altering business.

I have a NOM relative who took a long time to get rid of them because she liked the way they felt - "holding it all in" is how she described it. She told me recently she's pretty much ditched the garments in favor of Spanx and some other spanx-like underwear.

I do keep a one-piece garment as a slip for a white dress I like to wear in the summer. No slip has ever been as comfortable or effective as that one piece.

Coming late on this. I had a really hard time taking them off even though I hated them. They were so uncomfortable but it was the concreteness of the action that made it difficult. It made my unhappiness in the church more real, if that makes sense. If I didn't take them off, I could still pretend things were fine.

I didn't take them off until DH was on board. It was scary to go shopping for regular underwear. I was positive I was going to run into people from the ward so I hid my packages under other stuff so they were buried. lol Once I got home, I tossed the Gs and haven't looked back. So much better! And I don't draw so much attention to myself by constantly having to readjust the legs or fix the unnaturally high waist line. Or pull the sleeves back into position. Okay, so I was a mess of constant readjustment in those things.

It's been over three years since I last wore garments and I still have some hangups from wearing them so long/the modesty stuff. No sleeveless anything besides for exercise. Although maybe this one shouldn't be so bad? It seems the newest garment styles don't have sleeves that go halfway down the arm, only to just over the curve over the shoulder. I'd really like to get over my discomfort in the next several months so I don't suffer through another stifling summer wearing clothes with too much coverage.

Red Ryder wrote:It comes in white too:

Sorry, but the white stuff is a different process than the pink fiberglass and does not itch nearly as much as the pink stuff.


For me, it took me a while to stop wearing them. After my shelf crashed, I was basically in shock for weeks and it never occurred to me to stop wearing them. DW actually stopped before I did. When she told me she stopped, I would have stopped then too, but I needed to completely replace my underwear supply. Once I got enough normal underwear, I made the switch.

Batman wrote:

FiveFingerMnemonic wrote:With a TBM wife, I feel I would be committing the ultimate disrespect to her and causing her emotional pain in abandoning the garment completely.

This

I would take them off immediately and not look back with no problem at all. I do take every opportunity to not wear them when I can though.

Ditto

I'm doing it for my DW

I wear the garments because it helps me have more friends. It signals that you are in the tribe. Some people want out of the tribe and are OK with signalling that. I would rather not people judge me unfairly right now.

They are just underwear. They don't bother me, and I have a drawer full that are paid for. It would cause people I love heartburn if they noticed I wasn't wearing them... so I wear them for practical reasons. I will likely migrate to other options as I need new ones.

I turned in my temple recommend a while ago. You can't buy them without a valid recommend, so why would I continue wearing them when I am not even allowed to buy them?

GoodBoy wrote:I wear the garments because it helps me have more friends. It signals that you are in the tribe. Some people want out of the tribe and are OK with signalling that. I would rather not people judge me unfairly right now.

I get that. It definitely makes life easier for some. I am all about making life easy these days.
I taught the lesson on gladiatons robbers and secret combinations in GD a while back. I mentioned that I felt like the garments and the temple were a secret combination. That was about as popular as a turd in a punch bowl. I did include a caveat that we all feel like it is a god sanctioned combination, but that it is nonetheless.

Emower wrote:You can't buy them without a valid recommend, so why would I continue wearing them when I am not even allowed to buy them?

The garment peddlers have the ability to look up your membership, and as long as you were endowed at some point in your life, you can still buy Majick Underwear™.

The only time anyone who's received the secret combinations would be asked to NOT wear the sex protection suit would be if they were excommunicated.

OH, I didn't know that. I thought that since you had to give your recommend when buying if you didn't have one they wouldn't sell it to you. Jeez, I was counting on that to pacify my mother.

The past few weeks have been rough. My disdain for G's is increasing.