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wtfluff wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:15 pm Gee thanks all-powerful omnipotent Elohim for letting me know I shouldn't ingest stuff that's so hot it will burn my esophagus. There's no way I could have ever figured that out for myself! (And said burning would never happen with any other "hot" liquid besides coffee or tea...)

FiveFingerMnemonic wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:06 pm If this list is true, we are 30 years or less to becoming CoC.

Hagoth wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:16 pm I predict a lot of talk about how the Adversary wants us to think the world is ok and leads us off the narrow path and into researching things that are best left alone (reaction to Jana Reiss' research).

I would be surprised if we see any direct, correlatable response to the real issues.

Tea & Coffee: they will certainly not come out and say that the D&C revelation is wrong. They could fall back on my dad's answer, which was that it's not the content of the drink, but whether or not it's hot enough to cause tissue damage, but I highly doubt it. I think they'll treat it just like they did meat and non-wheat grains. They will talk less and less about tea and coffee as more and more members will start including it in their diet. It will be like caffeinated soda. It gradually went from forbidden to ambiguous to eventually a non-prophetic newsroom memo. Let's meet back here in a decade and see if I'm right.

2bizE wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 11:35 pm ... No alcohol, ...

moksha wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:56 pm As the CoC is now we may become, but first, let's concentrate our efforts in preventing the White Walkers ruling the April Conference. Hope Daenerys and the Unsullied are standing vigil outside the Conference Center. Watch your back Daenerys for the Zion's Iron Bank sailing our of Essos!

AllieOop wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 8:20 am

2bizE wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:47 am

no1saint wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 2:38 am

My TBM mother would love 1 as she loves the taste tea and coffee.

I would love 24 to be true, but can’t see how. Beyond celibacy and single life (which isn’t an option for me) I can’t see how you can include LGBTQI without a thus saith the Lord revelation. If one was to be released providing a doctrinal shift to allow same sex relationships and marriage...civil, not even Temple, I would return next week.

Can you imagine RMN making changes in #24?
“We owe an apology to our LGBT friends. The church officially was wrong. Every word that Dallin Hoax has said is false...”

I think both Nelson and Oaks have to be gone before this will happen. Remember Oaks was the president at BYU during the years of the awful aversion therapy and the threatening of gay students (approved by him, Kimball and Mark E. Peterson....and Monson was involved too).

From 1971 to 1980 BYU's president Dallin Oaks had Gerald J. Dye over the University Standards Office (renamed the Honor Code Office in 1991). Dye stated that during that decade part of the "set process" for homosexual BYU students referred to his office for "less serious" offenses was to require that they undergo some form of therapy to remain at BYU, and that in special cases this included "electroshock and vomiting aversion therapies."

In an independent BYU newspaper article two men describe their experience with the BYU Aversion therapy program during the early 1970s. After confessing to homosexual feelings they were referred to the BYU Counseling Center where the electroshock aversion therapy took place using pornographic pictures of males and females. Jon, one of the individuals, implied that the treatment was completely ineffective. The experiences match most reports which state that shock therapy was ineffective in changing sexual orientation.

From 1975 to 1976 Max Ford McBride, a student at BYU, conducted electroshock aversion therapy on 17 men (with 14 completing the treatment) using a male arousal measuring device placed around the penis and electrodes on the bicep. He published a dissertation on the use of electrical aversive techniques to treat ego-dystonic homosexuality. The thesis documents the use of "Electrical Aversion Therapy" on 14 homosexual men using a "phallometric" apparatus, "barely tolerable" shocks, and "nude male visual-cue stimuli." Although it is not publicly published whether all top LDS Church leaders were aware of the electroshock aversion therapy program, it is known that apostles Spencer Kimball, Mark Peterson, and now apostle Dallin Oaks were

I fear things will get worse under Oak's presidency, but I'm hopeful for a change and a revoking of the recent policy eventually.

Hagoth wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:16 pm Tea & Coffee: they will certainly not come out and say that the D&C revelation is wrong. They could fall back on my dad's answer, which was that it's not the content of the drink, but whether or not it's hot enough to cause tissue damage, but I highly doubt it. I think they'll treat it just like they did meat and non-wheat grains. They will talk less and less about tea and coffee as more and more members will start including it in their diet. It will be like caffeinated soda. It gradually went from forbidden to ambiguous to eventually a non-prophetic newsroom memo. Let's meet back here in a decade and see if I'm right.

9 And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly.

moksha wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:24 am Envelope up to my forehead:

During the Saturday noontime break, KSL will have a presentation of the new Rome Temple Complex and the highlight of the historic meeting between President Russell Marion Nelson and Pope Francis. There is a possibility that Come, Come Ye Saints will be played in the background of this video presentation.

Unendowed wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:57 am An old rumor about changing the length of missions for boys to 18 months is starting to look like it could become a reality this conference. This is all second hand information but someone who works in the mission office said that all the new calls currently going out say something about the length of service will be announced at conference. There has been a rumor going around about changing the boys time from 2 years to 18 months, same as the girls. This would make sense as they are making the boys and girls mission requirements equal. As a father of a currently serving missionary, I'm all for it. Hopefully those currently serving would get a choice to come home at 18 months.

jfro18 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:11 pm

Unendowed wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:57 am An old rumor about changing the length of missions for boys to 18 months is starting to look like it could become a reality this conference. This is all second hand information but someone who works in the mission office said that all the new calls currently going out say something about the length of service will be announced at conference. There has been a rumor going around about changing the boys time from 2 years to 18 months, same as the girls. This would make sense as they are making the boys and girls mission requirements equal. As a father of a currently serving missionary, I'm all for it. Hopefully those currently serving would get a choice to come home at 18 months.

This is weird only because I've had two nephews get mission calls in the last 1-3 weeks (one last week, one about three weeks ago) and both were normal with normal lengths.

Maybe just to specific areas?