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Not Buying It wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:34 am President Hinkcley and President Uchtdorf were better at giving you warm, happy feelings than Elder Bednar or Elder Oaks, but they did the same despicable things. Don't let the friendly smiles fool you - they would threaten to take away your family for eternity in a heartbeat if they thought you threatened them, and what kind of an evil person would do that?

Reuben wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:25 am The kind that think they're charged with preserving everyone else's eternity. The kind whose identities are so entangled with an organization that a threat to it feels like a threat to their person. The kind who choose fear over faith because God hasn't seemed all that interested in helping people stay. The kind who worship an abusive god who will reject everyone who leaves and everyone who let it happen. The kind who don't realize that their god is actually Mormonism itself.

I can't bring myself to label the men themselves evil. I can say that ignorance, fear and shame have led them to do great evil in the name of God. I hope I would do better in their position, but I don't think I could have been selected.

deacon blues wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 8:41 am This may have been expressed before, but it occurred to me that Pres. Nelson's emphasis on the sin of saying the "Mormon Church" instead of "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" just gives TBM's one more thing to feel offended and persecuted by. Gnats and Camels.

jfro18 wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 9:17 am

deacon blues wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 8:41 am This may have been expressed before, but it occurred to me that Pres. Nelson's emphasis on the sin of saying the "Mormon Church" instead of "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" just gives TBM's one more thing to feel offended and persecuted by. Gnats and Camels.

Oh absolutely - the "#DezNat" crowd on Twitter loves to whine about the 'fake news' media still referring to the Mormon church as the Mormon church even though the Mormon church has clearly stated what the Mormon church would now like to be referred to as going forward.