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I think it's written for family and ward members of someone who has pointed out City Creek, or tithing ridiculous, or lack of financial transparency.

Someone curious, but easily sated with the usual "we have everything under control. It simply would be irregular for the information to be public. Trust us..."

My dad always taught "The Lord doesn't need your money, he could just reveal the location of a huge gold or diamond mine to the prophet and the church would have all the money it needed, Tithing is for us so we learn humility and sacrifice and so the Lord can bless us."

slavereeno wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 6:48 am My dad always taught "The Lord doesn't need your money, he could just reveal the location of a huge gold or diamond mine to the prophet and the church would have all the money it needed, Tithing is for us so we learn humility and sacrifice and so the Lord can bless us."

Just like when the Lord told JS that there was treasure in Salem, MA and they ran out to get it... only to find none. Or when JS lost everyone's money with his bank in Ohio.

So weird how that works.

jfro18 wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 7:10 am Just like when the Lord told JS that there was treasure in Salem, MA and they ran out to get it... only to find none. Or when JS lost everyone's money with his bank in Ohio.

Haha, so true wish I had known some of that stuff, so I could have asked my Dad about it as a teen. "So like what Joseph Smith did with the translating stone before the Golden Bible thing?"

slavereeno wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 8:47 am "So like what Joseph Smith did with the translating stone before the Golden Bible thing?"

Well...the Lord didn't want Joseph to have all that money and power at that time in his life. He would have just used it to attract women for sexual purposes and to gain the adoration of men....

Hey wait... ??!!

slavereeno wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 6:48 am My dad always taught "The Lord doesn't need your money, he could just reveal the location of a huge gold or diamond mine to the prophet and the church would have all the money it needed, Tithing is for us so we learn humility and sacrifice and so the Lord can bless us."

So by that logic, you should be contributing your money to places where you know they will need it. The church doen't need money. You just established that. So your efforts to learn sacrifice and humility should go to helping the poor and needy. THat way youlearn what you need to learn and also bless the lives of those who need it most.

Didn't some guy get nailed to a tree a few thousand years ago for saying something like that?

Just This Guy wrote: ↑Thu May 31, 2018 10:39 am So your efforts to learn sacrifice and humility should go to helping the poor and needy. THat way youlearn what you need to learn and also bless the lives of those who need it most.

Didn't some guy get nailed to a tree a few thousand years ago for saying something like that?

I like this logic! I recently told DW the main reason I don't want to pay tithing anymore so I could be genuinely generous. I feel like I give all I can of my income to the moral black hole of tithing. I don't get to know how that is used because the finances are a closed book, I don't get to give to my favorite charities, or anything I am actually passionate about helping. I don't get to learn any lessons of unintended consequences or feel the joy of seeing the fruits of my generosity. I am learning nothing spiritually and feel nothing from paying tithing, yet it consumes the surplus I would use to feel those things.