Why I love the essays
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And Hagoth did an amazing job of annotating them!
Always been the good kid, but I wanted to know more, and to find and test truth.
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Wrong. He's happy with his way of life.Palerider wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:06 pm
I don't know.......he might be kind of happy, but not from his way of life. I think what we have captured here is a man caught up in laughing at his own jokes. Of course the audience is obligated to laugh.......
He's happy with his life because, finally, we have another polygamist prophet. He did it. Granted, it's just spiritual polygamy, but he was really happy to let us know in the talk where this picture was taken that he is sealed to two women.
"Healing is impossible in loneliness; it is the opposite of loneliness. Conviviality is healing. To be healed we must come with all the other creates to the feast of Creation." --Wendell Berry
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Wonder if dream psychologist Carl Jung might have interpreted the Angel as being Joseph's own libido and the "drawn/flaming sword" as being Joseph's you know what? That might have shifted the meaning from one of doctrine into being a symptom of satyriasis.
Good faith does not require evidence, but it also does not turn a blind eye to that evidence. Otherwise, it becomes misplaced faith.
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First of all, welcome to NOM!WholesomeRecreation wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:16 am However, while they are a good start, they still aren't complete. What about the temple & masonry for example. The apologists agree that masonry comes from the 1200's/Scotland (if I remember correctly) and not the ancient times passed down from Adam.
Secondly, that's the essay I've been hoping for. I doubt, however, that we will see any more essays. They do too a good job of showing how terrible the the official answers really are.
“The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also.” -Mark Twain
Jesus: "The Kingdom of God is within you." The Buddha: "Be your own light."
Jesus: "The Kingdom of God is within you." The Buddha: "Be your own light."
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What's that they say....?? "Wickedness never was happiness...??"
Of course I'm not saying he's wicked...but the "principle" of plural marriage is certainly much less than desirable.
"There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily."
"Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light."
George Washington
"Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light."
George Washington
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The essays a very, very sloowwly being assimilated into the general membership. I wish LDS were more curious and open-minded, but they aren't. I appreciate Hagoth's annotated essays. they are very helpful, and I took the liberty of copying them. I hope that's OK. If you want me to send some $, I wouldn't mind in the least.
God is Love. God is Truth. The greatest problem with organized religion is that the organization becomes god, rather than a means of serving God.
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Is there a way we can pin the annotated essays or their link to the front page?deacon blues wrote: ↑Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:11 am The essays a very, very sloowwly being assimilated into the general membership. I wish LDS were more curious and open-minded, but they aren't. I appreciate Hagoth's annotated essays. they are very helpful, and I took the liberty of copying them. I hope that's OK. If you want me to send some $, I wouldn't mind in the least.
It's frustrating to see the last resort in a discussion of facts be: I disregard those facts because of my faith. Why even talk about facts if the last resort is to put faith above all facts that are contrary to your faith?
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Hell no. But I do update them from time to time, so make sure you have the latest versions.deacon blues wrote: ↑Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:11 amIf you want me to send some $, I wouldn't mind in the least.
“The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also.” -Mark Twain
Jesus: "The Kingdom of God is within you." The Buddha: "Be your own light."
Jesus: "The Kingdom of God is within you." The Buddha: "Be your own light."
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These are guys who traded every weekend of their lives for adoration. Can you imagine spending the rest of your life in Stake Conference? Kill me.
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I have wondered about their motives over and over. I do know, for example, that until I was 45 years old, I had no idea that I was in a false narrative. I was controlled COMPLETELY by correlation. I believe there is a possibility, though small, that these men ALSO believe completely in the narrative. But I don't know how they stay in that paradigm...
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Where can I find these? I’m intrigued.Hagoth wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 2:43 pmHell no. But I do update them from time to time, so make sure you have the latest versions.deacon blues wrote: ↑Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:11 amIf you want me to send some $, I wouldn't mind in the least.
"The opposite of Faith is not Doubt, it's Certainty." ~ Anne Lamott
Love More.
Love More.
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Book of Abraham: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Logow ... 0qOhleGrdc
Kirtland and Nauvoo Polygamy: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1vd_nk ... e15eAF2Fxc
Book of Mormon Translation: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1jv0pF ... MwXtLW3dkM
Book of Mormon and DNA: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1tz7y7 ... IXJOfV_Mis
My personal favorite is the one about Book of Mormon DNA but I think it's the least read. It's very long and detailed. Here's a very brief summary: the essay provides absolutely NO evidence in favor of the BoM but makes a lot of lame excuses for why there is no evidence. On the other hand, massive evidence against. Enjoy.
“The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also.” -Mark Twain
Jesus: "The Kingdom of God is within you." The Buddha: "Be your own light."
Jesus: "The Kingdom of God is within you." The Buddha: "Be your own light."
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Thanks Hagoth!
"The opposite of Faith is not Doubt, it's Certainty." ~ Anne Lamott
Love More.
Love More.
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Hey, can I ride your tapir bro?
"She never loved you; she loved the church, her one true love. She used you to marry the church by proxy."
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I can't find the other thread where I was posting some typos...
Polygamy essay, page 6 seems to be missing an "Is"
Polygamy essay, page 6 seems to be missing an "Is"
Absolutely loving your annotations Hagoth...this really how God does things,
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Polygamy Pg, 6
Did you intend to use an older spelling of Restoration?Let’s step back and consider the events of the restauration that were so important
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Thanks again, Slavereeno. I could have sworn those words were speld curectlee. What do you charge for editor fees?
EDIT: I misspelled Slavereeno!
EDIT: I misspelled Slavereeno!
“The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also.” -Mark Twain
Jesus: "The Kingdom of God is within you." The Buddha: "Be your own light."
Jesus: "The Kingdom of God is within you." The Buddha: "Be your own light."
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Polygamy Essay Pg. 6/7
Soapbox thought: according to mormon doctrine, wasn't the war in heaven about agency? Wasn't it stan's plan to force people to obey? So does God occasionally whip out Stan's plan when it comes to prophetic sex with teenagers?
Soapbox thought: according to mormon doctrine, wasn't the war in heaven about agency? Wasn't it stan's plan to force people to obey? So does God occasionally whip out Stan's plan when it comes to prophetic sex with teenagers?
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Some of this polygamy essay reads like a logic puzzle you may find on an exam.
Zina Jacobs was married to a man, she and the man had a child together, when that man was on a mission, she was married to the first prophet, after the first prophet died, she married the second prophet, after the judgement day who's wife will Zina Jacobs be?
a) The first man she married
b) The first prophet
c) the second prophet
d) none of thee above
Zina Jacobs was married to a man, she and the man had a child together, when that man was on a mission, she was married to the first prophet, after the first prophet died, she married the second prophet, after the judgement day who's wife will Zina Jacobs be?
a) The first man she married
b) The first prophet
c) the second prophet
d) none of thee above