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I think an 1850s style reformation is just what the doctor (RMN) ordered. We need the block teaching list of questions that ask about murder, personal hygene, coveting our neighbor's things, and keeping livestock that's not our own. Following that, rebaptism will be required. If you live in rural areas and happen to fall out of the habit of blessing the food, you may find yourself accosted by masked elders who force you at knife point to pray and then eat a watermelon from your own field (reference Juanita Brooks).deacon blues wrote:I wonder if there might a time of "pruning" the vines in the future. The leaders might say, "Our numbers are going South, so let's just get rid of the deadwood and call it a "New Reformation."
I am wondering if this page from the website is legit.Hagoth wrote: ↑Sun Apr 08, 2018 6:36 am My calendar must be broken, because it is obviously 1984.
https://ldschurchtemples.org/statistics/units/
All Church unit statistical information has been removed at the request of the Church Legal Department.
The site now no longer has a "Church Units" page under "Statistics". If it did, the link above would go directly to it.consiglieri wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:40 amI am wondering if this page from the website is legit.Hagoth wrote: ↑Sun Apr 08, 2018 6:36 am My calendar must be broken, because it is obviously 1984.
https://ldschurchtemples.org/statistics/units/
All Church unit statistical information has been removed at the request of the Church Legal Department.
Now, I don't know a lot about computers or webpages or anything, but here is what I find.
If I click on your link, it shows a webpage at that site under the heading "statistics" that has the language about the legal department and removing the statistics about units.
BUT if I click on "home" on the same page, it takes me to the home page.
Then if I click on the far right top menu bar under "statistics," it doesn't have the same page about the legal department.
Instead, it actually has all the new statistics right there.
What is going on? Am I missing something?
If you look at what used to be on the originally linked page, that content is now missing. Take a look at this archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20180303214 ... ics/units/. The other page you reference shows much abbreviated information. Specifically, data about specific, individual units are all gone. The aggregate numbers remain on the other page. This seems to be what the church is going after -- data on specific units.consiglieri wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:40 am I am wondering if this page from the website is legit.
Now, I don't know a lot about computers or webpages or anything, but here is what I find.
If I click on your link, it shows a webpage at that site under the heading "statistics" that has the language about the legal department and removing the statistics about units.
BUT if I click on "home" on the same page, it takes me to the home page.
Then if I click on the far right top menu bar under "statistics," it doesn't have the same page about the legal department.
Instead, it actually has all the new statistics right there.
What is going on? Am I missing something?
No, it is 2018. How do I know? Because in November, Charles M. Manson will be eligible to have his Temple Work done at either the Manti or the Logan Temples. He is tentatively scheduled to be sealed to Sister L. Squeaky Fromme. His sponsor will be President Theodore R. Bundy of the West Haven Paradise Mission. Upon arrival, he will be given a patriarchal blessing by Mission Patriarch, Grigori Y. Rasputin. It is expected that he will join the spiritual promotions law firm of DeSade McConkie.
This part makes a lot of sense. Once it started to become clear that they were concerned about specific types of data on unit changes, I began to wonder if there wasn't some privacy angle involved. I couldn't figure out what it was but the idea of hidden units makes sense. Even beyond the more obvious situations (e.g., China), there may be concerns about privacy in sensitive or dangerous areas. Though the data hasn't mentioned individuals, it may not be too difficult to tie unit changes to unit leaders, which would make the privacy changes more significant. Eliminating the data from these sites may not wholly solve the problem, but it provide a layer of obscurity that could be helpful.
I don't know about you, but I like to keep both my tidbits and my sensitive units out of the public eye.
Well, where it's allowed I really don't mind. It's really the only way to swim. The sun and air all over is quite nice. If you've never tried it I encourage everyone to give it a try. You might find you like it.Hagoth wrote:I don't know about you, but I like to keep both my tidbits and my sensitive units out of the public eye.
Well, you know what they say: as an online discussion grows longer, the probability that it drifts into nudist advocacy approaches 1.Jeffret wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:45 pmWell, where it's allowed I really don't mind. It's really the only way to swim. The sun and air all over is quite nice. If you've never tried it I encourage everyone to give it a try. You might find you like it.Hagoth wrote:I don't know about you, but I like to keep both my tidbits and my sensitive units out of the public eye.
Hey, with an invitation like that I had to take it.Reuben wrote:Well, you know what they say: as an online discussion grows longer, the probability that it drifts into nudist advocacy approaches 1.
Is that like a thing now? My BIL who is TBM but with some significant shelf items has referred me a couple of time to some LDS nudists site. I thought it was a joke, that seems like a contradiction in terms. Isn't that what the garment is for to cover the tidbits etc.? How can someone be an LDS nudist? This is a huge digression from the topic so I suppose the question is rhetorical.
I think we're well off-topic now.slavereeno wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:53 pm Is that like a thing now? My BIL who is TBM but with some significant shelf items has referred me a couple of time to some LDS nudists site. I thought it was a joke, that seems like a contradiction in terms. Isn't that what the garment is for to cover the tidbits etc.? How can someone be an LDS nudist? This is a huge digression from the topic so I suppose the question is rhetorical.
I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts that brother Manson's paternal line has holes in it. I'll pass a list around and get maybe 20 or 30 of you brethren to volunteer to do some indexing. Then you sisters can take the names to the newly dedicated JRT to perform the baptisms.moksha wrote: ↑Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:19 pmNo, it is 2018. How do I know? Because in November, Charles M. Manson will be eligible to have his Temple Work done at either the Manti or the Logan Temples. He is tentatively scheduled to be sealed to Sister L. Squeaky Fromme. His sponsor will be President Theodore R. Bundy of the West Haven Paradise Mission. Upon arrival, he will be given a patriarchal blessing by Mission Patriarch, Grigori Y. Rasputin. It is expected that he will join the spiritual promotions law firm of DeSade McConkie.
"the Church reported a significant slowdown in membership growth in the United States during 2017 as church membership increased by only 0.75% - the lowest annual membership growth rate for the Church in the United States in perhaps as long as a century. The Church in Mexico also reported the slowest membership growth in 35 years of a mere 1.30% during 2017."