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Re: Glad I found this group

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:23 pm
by wtfluff
Red Ryder wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:53 pmPeople like us are contagious, outrageous, and simply too dangerous.
I think you need to capitalize on this RR. I need a shirt:

Contagious
Outrageous
&
Dangerous


You can put a tapir on it also if it behooves you/

Re: Glad I found this group

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:48 pm
by Wonderment
Welcome to the ward ! :) :) :) Lots of really nice, really fun people here. :) - Wndr.

Re: Glad I found this group

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:37 am
by sparky
Welcome to the group! I'm glad you found us, too. Sometimes it feels like we're in one of those books/movies where there's a secret underground resistance.

I have to say I'm jealous of how you and your wife worked things out. I would be 100% on board with such a situation, where she remained fully active and believing and I could do my own thing. Unfortunately it's not in the cards for this time of my life, so I'm still by all appearances to my ward and family an active if nuanced member.

Looking forward to hearing more about your experiences and perspectives!

Re: Glad I found this group

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:27 pm
by deacon blues
IT_Veteran wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:49 am Thanks. I just got to a point where I figured if my little brother could do it at 18-19 years old with no support, I could get through it. Scariest part was talking to my wife about it. It was a huge boost that when I started talking about my struggles with testimony and that I wasn't sure if I believed anything anymore, she actually told me she loved me no matter what, and that she would stand by me whether I regained a testimony or decided to leave the church.
Good for you. Your wife sounds like a winner, open minded, loving, etc. Eight years, since I broke out of Mormon wonderland. It's been a fascinating trip.

Re: Glad I found this group

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:48 pm
by MalcolmVillager
Welcome. I don't come around here much anymore but NOM 1.0 was seriously a life saver.

Good luck on the journey. I am curious how that will all play out for you. I am an active non believer. Some days feel fine and others feel like I am done.

There is so much Mormonism in my blood and culture. I am not sure how far I could get if I left. Plus I am not a slacker or light minded and I would result this labels from the TBM's who would certainly assume that much.

Re: Glad I found this group

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:01 pm
by IT_Veteran
It’s been a stressful week, to be sure. It’s been 5 days since sending my letter to parents and family on both sides. So far, my Exmo (everyone else in the family is very TBM) brother has been great, my sister-in-law and her husband said they love me no matter what and will pray for our family. Just heard back from my mom today and she said she “loves me no matter what and nothing else matters right now.”

I really have been very lucky in the family department. We’ll see how everyone else feels when the dust settles, but so far it’s been reassuring.

DW and kids went to stake conference today. I don’t think my bishop and SP know I’m out yet. Wife was going to meet with the bishop to discuss the situation, but I don’t plan to.

I still wasn’t planning on resigning and just letting the records stick around since everybody else is still very involved in the church. I’m starting to wonder how much danger I’m in of being ex’d though. I’d rather resign than go that route, so I’m still trying to figure out the likelihood of that scenario.

Re: Glad I found this group

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:03 pm
by IT_Veteran
MalcolmVillager wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:48 pm Welcome. I don't come around here much anymore but NOM 1.0 was seriously a life saver.

Good luck on the journey. I am curious how that will all play out for you. I am an active non believer. Some days feel fine and others feel like I am done.

There is so much Mormonism in my blood and culture. I am not sure how far I could get if I left. Plus I am not a slacker or light minded and I would result this labels from the TBM's who would certainly assume that much.
Mine too, believe me. Family on mom’s side joined when she was young. Dad’s side crossed the plains and was involved in polygamy. Spent my middle/high-school years In Utah - married at 18, sealed a year later, etc..

Re: Glad I found this group

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:27 am
by slavereeno
IT_Veteran wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:01 pm I’m starting to wonder how much danger I’m in of being ex’d though. I’d rather resign than go that route, so I’m still trying to figure out the likelihood of that scenario.
I'd say its pretty unlikely if the only thing you have done is stop believing. Depends on your SP and BP but if you are not terribly vocal or public about your disaffection, they are unlikely to ex you.

Re: Glad I found this group

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:01 am
by Corsair
IT_Veteran wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:01 pm I’m starting to wonder how much danger I’m in of being ex’d though. I’d rather resign than go that route, so I’m still trying to figure out the likelihood of that scenario.
Perhaps if you get Red Ryder's statement as a prominent tatoo you would have a greater likelihood of being ex'ed
Red Ryder allegedly got a tattoo where he wrote: Contagious
Outrageous
&
Dangerous
If you keep your mouth shut and just be a quiet iconoclast you will probably stay in the somewhat good graces of the church. You could turn down callings and not renew your temple rec, but as long as you are not vocal you will probably be fine.

Re: Glad I found this group

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:59 am
by IT_Veteran
Thanks all, I appreciate the responses. To be clear, I've told my wife and kids, immediate family that I'm not going back to church except to support wife/kids in specific events (baptism, mission farewells, etc.). Wasn't sure if just telling my wife and kids that I don't believe the gospel is true rose to that level or not. Bishop and SP seem like genuinely nice guys. They both know of my FC, and have been generally supportive in a "keep praying and reading the scriptures" kind of way.

Re: Glad I found this group

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:15 pm
by Geocacher
Welcome aboard, glad to have you, and that things are going well with the, moving away from TBM. Been away for so many years, but still a member of sorts. Sometimes, everything falls apart, when people leave the church.