Education ranking by religious groups

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Thoughtful wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:59 am
alas wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:42 am Notice how much higher in comparison the "some college" catagory is. I suppose Mormons have a much higher rate of females who go to college while waiting for their missionary, or go to college to get their MRS degree, or just give up their own dreams because the marriage option comes up, and then their husband finishing college comes first. With the ones who are only in college waiting to get married, they drop out without finishing. Then there is the big group who put their husband's education and career first, so they give up their own education because that is what the church expects them to do. I even fell into that catagory for about 10 years, because my returned missionary hubby is 4 years older and didn't want to wait for me to finish because I had 3 1/2 years left and then his draft number got close, so he enlisted in the US AF and my life got put off for years.

But because Mormons stress marriage as THE most important thing a woman can ever do, I think that a huge percentage of women start college and never finish, even when then have career aspirations.
Yup. I took 6 years after I married to get my undergrad. Graduate degrees were a long time coming.
I noticed that as well - the LDS church has a emphasis on getting married and having babies. I know several women who are married to very successful men (some of them are people you'd have heard of) and the women have only a year or two of college. For many women, BYU is for meeting, marrying, and breeding. I've even heard YW members, in recent years, say the only reason they wanted to go to BYU was to find a husband.
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Jeffret wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:25 pm
Thoughtful wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:10 pm I wish I could remember where I saw a breakdown of earnings comparing income for male vs. Female graduates of BYU. It was really despicable, women with degrees earning miniscule amounts of money but the men doing well.
Probably something like this: BYU grads No. 1 in gender wage gap
The one I am thinking of was more recent and more dramatic difference even than this. It had comparisons for all UT schools.
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Jeffret wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:51 pm I certainly found that the case when I attended the local UU church for a while. Definitely intellectually stimulating. And uplifting.
I remember the year when homelessness became a major issue. The local Unitarians formed a study group to examine the issue of homelessness, the Presbyterians gathered in the church kitchen after services to make sandwiches for the homeless, and about that time the Mormons gave a General Conference address regarding the importance of the destitute paying their tithing.

You might say that each faith tradition was being true to its own inclinations.
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moksha wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:41 am I remember the year when homelessness became a major issue. The local Unitarians formed a study group to examine the issue of homelessness, the Presbyterians gathered in the church kitchen after services to make sandwiches for the homeless, and about that time the Mormons gave a General Conference address regarding the importance of the destitute paying their tithing.
The local UU certainly does more than talk about it: Foothills UU:
Five Things to Do: Ways to make a real difference in 2017
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Jeffret wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:45 am The local UU certainly does more than talk about it: Foothills UU:
Five Things to Do: Ways to make a real difference in 2017
Good on that congregation in Larimer County, Colorado.
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Jeffret wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:51 pm
Hagoth wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:08 pm Anyway you slice it, if you don't find the company of Mormons sufficiently intellectually stimulating, you need to spend more time hanging out with Unitarians and Hindus.
I certainly found that the case when I attended the local UU church for a while. Definitely intellectually stimulating. And uplifting.
I've attended the local UU (which happens to be right next door to my ward building) a couple of times. At a local level, education levels were probably similar among both groups, but man, the sermons are a different story. So much more engaging at the UU.
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