NOM

"Nourish and strengthen"

"None shall dare to molest or make afraid."

I've always been very puzzled and intrigued by that phrase. It's been quoted several times by multiple prophets. I'm not sure where the earliest usage of it is and why Satan would be one to say it in the temple film. I did some googling and found it referenced outside of mormon docs:

Great Debates in American History: Foreign relations, part 2

https://books.google.com/books?id=yoF1A ... id&f=false

So it was obviously a phrase in use during the JS BY times and still in use in 1913.

The same which has been done in other worlds!

asa wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:41 pm Sorry Brian but while the general statement may be true your example is lousy That is a precise quote of Ephesians 4;13. It is translated exactly this way is many modern translations because it has such powerful significance to the larger Christian community. I don't know what your cultural background is but that phrase is very meaningful to a chunk of believing Christians , particularly among protestant evangelicals , and I bet hundreds of thousands of words have been written about the phrase. I use to hear it all the time in morning devotional in my heavily Baptist public high school. If you are interested in exploring it further ( which I bet your not ) try the Anchor bible commentary on Ephesians. Hogarth has perhaps some better examples but even most of them would be readily recognizable to educated Christians. I vote for "sweet spirit ' and " Nephi's courage " or best of all "follow the prophet.

Ouch! You are dead on, and I hate the taste of humble pie! That does indeed come straight out of the New Testament, and probably has tons of significance outside of Mormonism. It's a terrible example, and I was wrong about that one. Sorry!

Jeffret - Thank you for that deeper explanation! That was great!

Maybe some better examples would be "Abrahamic Test", "received his image in your countenance", or "the Son Ahman". These phrases have deep significance for Latter-day Saints, but (to my knowledge) mean nothing to non-members. Of course, there are funny little quirks of language, too, that are unique but not spiritually significant ("even" cracked me up).

My background, btw, is pretty Mormon. I've read the Bible and come to some conclusions about it, but I haven't studied it in a traditional, orthodox Christian context. As a TBM, I probably spent most of my time with the BOM, then maybe the NT (but mostly the gospels, James, and whatever the manuals said to read) or modern LDS content, then D&C, PGP, and OT.

Anyway, I guess I win today's prize for looking dumb on the internet! Thanks for the correction!

Faith to not be healed
Salvation and exaltation
Sacred not secret
Porn shoulders
Laying on of hands
Prophetic revalation
What is porn
Calling and election
Sustain and support
"Freewill and choice"
Child of God

BriansThoughtMirror wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:01 am "Abrahamic Test"

That one does seem to be pretty Mormon. Though in some other religions there is discussion of the 10 or twelve tests of Abraham.

moksha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:36 am "We beseech thee for thine moisture"

Hey, I hope and pray for moisture to happen frequently.

The use of the term "moisture" isn't so much of a Mormon thing as a regional thing. Often things we think are Mormon things are just things they've picked up as part of their place within the larger society. This certainly applies to significant parts of their conservative politics. Usage of "moisture" is a Rocky Mountain thing or maybe even a Western thing.

dear heavenly father, we thank thee, we ask thee, in the name of Jesus Christ Amen

cos prayers don't get through the filters, unless they're done that way.

Corsair wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:53 pm "Oath and Covenant of the Priesthood" is meaningless in Christendom at large.

I think it's arguable that it's meaningless in Mormonism. No one was ever able to explain to me exactly what the oath and covenant were.

Jeffret wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:58 pm The use of the term "moisture" isn't so much of a Mormon thing as a regional thing. Often things we think are Mormon things are just things they've picked up as part of their place within the larger society. This certainly applies to significant parts of their conservative politics. Usage of "moisture" is a Rocky Mountain thing or maybe even a Western thing.

I sure never heard it in PA. However, I've since moved out west, and that one also cracked me up! But, yeah, it's more of a regional language quirk.

I definitely hear "moisture" used outside a Mormon context in Colorado. I think I heard it in San Diego, also, but I can't remember that for sure.

I would add "sealing for eternity only". Get married now with no obligation until the next life.

Fifi de la Vergne wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:55 pm

Corsair wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:53 pm "Oath and Covenant of the Priesthood" is meaningless in Christendom at large.

I think it's arguable that it's meaningless in Mormonism. No one was ever able to explain to me exactly what the oath and covenant were.

I've true to figure it out and it's super vague.

Loud laughter

Hermey wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:35 pm Here is an excerpt from Lyndon Lamborn's book, Standing for Something More - The Excommunication of Lyndon Lamborn. In it, he talks about "loading the language" and why they do it.

That's dead-on. I'm going to have to read that again. If you want to see the ultimate example of nonsense language check out an ex-Scientology forum. It will seem oddly familiar but with a completely different set of nonsense words.

FiveFingerMnemonic wrote: ↑Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:14 pm Loud laughter

This is defined according to the whims of individual leaders and how annoyed they are at their youth Sunday School class.

girding up loins
strength in the loins

plural noun: loins
the part of the body on both sides of the spine between the lowest (false) ribs and the hipbones.
literary
the region of the sexual organs, especially when regarded as the source of erotic or procreative power.
"he felt a stirring in his loins at the thought"
a large cut of meat that includes the vertebrae of the loins.
"loin of pork with potatoes"

I guess there's no argument as to JS' loin strength and girding ups with all those girls and women he was forced to lay with.

Hagoth wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:24 pm Even.

This one. I cringe whenever I hear it. "I close these in the name of our Savior, even Jesus the Christ..." It is silly and ridiculous.

The way testimonies are shared is very unique. "I know the church is true...I know this is true...I know this will happen when we die..." etc. It sounds weird to people.