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w2mz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:19 am Thank you all so much for your thoughts and input. Fantastic ideas!

I had a realization yesterday as I was reading through this thread again... My DD loves being at BYU. It 's been one of her dreams since she was a little girl so as much as I would love to load her shelf, I really don't want to do anything that would potentially hurt her grade or put her on some watch list... I need to realize that the topics that I personally would like to discuss are not necessarily ones that would be in her best interest. So I don't think that I'll suggest polygamy/teenaged brides.

I talked to her again last night about several ideas (thanks again for the suggestions!) and she likes the word of wisdom as a potential topic. She is in a health related major, so we talked about how she could research the WoW, it's origins, what points are accurate and which aren't like tobacco being bad for human use, but not used for sick cattle, etc. Explore why we as Mormons pick and choose which parts to obey, i.e. no alcohol, but we're not so good at eating meat only in winter or times of famine, etc. How JS smoked and drank after the WoW, how it was elevated from good counsel to a revelation/law that requires obedience, etc.

This seems like a safe enough topic that may give her some things to think about, but not get her into any tight spots with her professor.

Thank you all again for your help. This is why I keep coming back to NOM. You all rock!

Although the revelations left many of the issues raised by Samuel Underhill and his Kendal Community (see chaps. 5, 7) unresolved, the growing Mormonite congregation continued to discuss these issues among themselves. One of the subjects that may have been part of their conversation was an Owenite interest in proper diet as part of their reform efforts. As one of the leaders of the Kendal Community, Samuel Underhill preached in the villages surrounding Kirtland, and probably in Kirtland itself, on diet and health. He became a leading force in the region’s rising temperance movement, expanding the discussion from promoting abstinence from alcohol to a general avoidance of other unhealthy substances. In 1829, just as the Kendal Community dissolved and Kirtland’s Morley Family organized, Underhill wrote down some of what he was preaching. As a former Quaker, he borrowed scriptural language and forms for his instruction:

Now it came to pass that the sons of men found in the land a certain plant having broad leaves and an acrid taste and it stupified the people. 2. And some burned it and drew the smoke thereof into their mouths & some put it in their mouths and spit forth the juice thereof for it was much & many made it very fine and drew it into their noses. . . . [H]earken unto wisdom & be ye saved. 6. Strong drink is ruin; much wine is an evil, tea is a curse, coffee is injurious, tobaccoes disgustful and poisonous and altogether are a great damnation. 6. [repeated number] Drink water alone, live on simple diet take due exercise and ye shall be happy.35

In addition, Underhill lectured locally on limiting the consumption of meat and particularly recommended abstaining from pork. His lectures generated a continuing discussion among members of the Mormonites in Kirtland since Levi Hancock, who had not been a part of the Morley Family, recalled, “The preaching in Kirtland was against the use of pork."

Hagoth wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2017 1:18 pm Take an event and report what ALL of the witnesses said. For some reason the Correlation Committee loves to talk about angels and tongues of fire at the Kirtland temple dedication, but not so much about booze and flying steam boats.