Upset by Elder Holland Story

[redjay]

RFM?

Radio Free Mormon.

I flatter myself it is becoming so well-known it can be referred to by initials.

Ah! BTW I am a fan of the podcast.

[wtfluff]

For me, this is just fine example of Holland's Olympic-level confirmation bias / mental gymnastics.

Holland is so big and important, that even when the invisible super-human in the sky tells him the wrong answer, it's really the right answer.

(Also: Never forget that the invisible man in the sky NEEDS YOUR MONEY! But don't give your money to the invisible man in the sky, give it to Holland.)

[Lithium Sunset]

I have been waiting all day to respond to this. I haven't had time to read all the responses yet.
This video might stay in my mind forever. I have been thinking about since the summer/fall of 2015 when I saw it. You see we started going back to church after a 7 year break and I was really struggling. One day I would feel the "spirit" as we went to church (see the conditioning thread) and then I wouldn't feel anything. I started to call my husband crying (he was deployed) saying that I didn't fit in and that I couldn't feel the spirit anymore and that I couldn't even find things to say in gospel doc. And when I would say my opinion in relief society I would get funny looks sometimes.
Anyway... this part is sickening... After my whole family gave talks (months later) in sacrament, I felt the "spirit" in the old way (considering we emailed our talks to family and they praised us the no end.. see conditioning thread again). All that time, despite saying I would be true to myself, I tried to get back what I once had/felt. I was listening to LDS music all the time, watching official movies, and most of all listening and watching an LDS broadcast channel. I can't remember what it was called but the boys and I watched a lot of videos from it.
I remember watching this exact one and trying to figure out exactly how it was applicable.
OH IT BECAME APLICABLE! As I was leaving the church in late fall 2015 (thanks again to NOM for helping with that, and for starting this site!) I kept thinking of this video and laughing. I still feel really grateful, and have mentioned it recently, that I had to get back in to get fully out. If I would have just stayed inactive the church would have always owned me mentally.
Maybe that only connects in my mind but I see it that I had to go down the wrong road again to find the right one.
Thanks for letting me share and sorry if there are a lot of typos... I really need to get to bed.

[GoodBoy]

RFM?

Radio Free Mormon.

I flatter myself it is becoming so well-known it can be referred to by initials.

I thought it meant Recovery From Mormonism... But I didn't think you were that hard-core yet

By the way, I'd love to hear a short 10-minute RFM podcast on this particular talk that Holland did. Somebody needs to point out when they say stupid stuff

[GoodBoy]

God told me to serve a mission, it ended up one of the worst decisions of my life. I came home after having a mental breakdown and attempting to take my own life. I was very confused as to why God would have me go on a mission to try to kill me.

The answer came back: God sent me on a mission because I needed to go. I didn't know at the time what good it will do, but it was the right place for me to be.

The worst part is, I bought it.

In my dating years God told me not to marry a girl that I was really in love with. So I had faith and broke up with her and completely broke my heart and hers. Instead he told me to marry the girl that I was dating before my mission. However, she married someone else while I was on my mission. God was just testing me apparently??? Anyway God told me to marry my current wife, and I'm not positive that was the absolute best decision, but it was a good-enough decision and I WANT to stay married to my wife at this point.

[20/20hind]

I have a friend who prayed about if they should marry the person they had been dating for a couple years. They said the spirit told him/her to marry.

Well 2 years into the marriage the spouse began cheating and was a total jack ass.

Its a total crap shoot when you ask un seen beings to tell you what they want you to do.

Your just as likely to get the same results as totally believing a fortune cookie.

[consiglieri]

I thought it meant Recovery From Mormonism... But I didn't think you were that hard-core yet

By the way, I'd love to hear a short 10-minute RFM podcast on this particular talk that Holland did. Somebody needs to point out when they say stupid stuff

Ask and ye shall receive.

It is in the works and I hope to have it up by Sunday!

[GoodBoy]

I thought it meant Recovery From Mormonism... But I didn't think you were that hard-core yet

By the way, I'd love to hear a short 10-minute RFM podcast on this particular talk that Holland did. Somebody needs to point out when they say stupid stuff

Ask and ye shall receive.

It is in the works and I hope to have it up by Sunday!

Awesome. I can't wait!