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blazerb wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:44 am Does anyone think the rest of the sessions will be better? Ugh!

I don't know. That was rough.

Hey looks like oaks was the only one not wearing a mask!

I need a nap.

Mormorrisey wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:49 am Hey looks like oaks was the only one not wearing a mask!

Maybe he will join Trump and the hospital. I have a feeling they would be best buddies.

Awwwwww, such relief. I didn’t have to suffer through any of that. My TBM sweetheart is outside figuring out how to put his tools in the new garage (prefab, delivered just the other day, and really so we can leave the ATVs in Idaho over the winter, not for a car) And he didn’t even turn conference on. Talk about tender mercies. Sorry y’all with believing spouses that force you to watch.

Mormorrisey wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:32 am

MoPag wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:30 am You are going to denounce the riots but not the murders? Sit your a$$ down. -500

Don't forget, his daughter played at the LDS for Trump rally in Arizona. He's chosen his side.

That is a fascinating connection. I only half listened to his talk and thought maybe it would actually help with the political sickness in our nation and elsewhere. Definitely too little too late in that regard. While I agree that political protest should be non-violent, I am not sure that he wasn't taking sides here. At least it will be taken that way by some. So it may end up being what I would call a horoscope talk, vague enough for anyone to take it any way they want.

DPRoberts wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:15 pm

Mormorrisey wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:32 am

MoPag wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:30 am You are going to denounce the riots but not the murders? Sit your a$$ down. -500

Don't forget, his daughter played at the LDS for Trump rally in Arizona. He's chosen his side.

That is a fascinating connection. I only half listened to his talk and thought maybe it would actually help with the political sickness in our nation and elsewhere. Definitely too little too late in that regard. While I agree that political protest should be non-violent, I am not sure that he wasn't taking sides here. At least it will be taken that way by some. So it may end up being what I would call a horoscope talk, vague enough for anyone to take it any way they want.

Yes totally!
He did say some things that could be cherry picked to preach against racism. And I hope some of the things he said will make some super alt-right TBMs take a step back. Or at least the more moderate/left TBMs will have some things to work with now.
He never directly acknowledged the church's racist past and current racial issues. And that is really what Black TBMs want, at least the Black TBMs I know.
He, like so many other people, really only focus on the violence of the riots which is a SYMPTOM. He didn't directly focus on the DISEASE, systemic racism and white supremacy.
Harping on abut unity is the church's way of side stepping the problem of racism. It's not helpful. It's quite hurtful to the people who have to deal with racism.

græy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:32 am

MoPag wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:30 am You are going to denounce the riots but not the murders? Sit your a$$ down. -500

Good point. Don't call out angry people unless you're actually going to acknowledge why they are angry in the first place.

Calling out angry people without acknowledging the source of their anger is what the church is built on. Greedy people were angry Joseph Smith wouldn't show them the plates (because he had taken money to find buried treasure and not produced). People were mad at Joseph Smith and tarred and feathered him (because he was boinking everybody's wife/sister/daughter). A mob was so mad at Joseph Smith that they murdered him (because he destroyed a printing press that was going to spread the truth about his philandering).

This is play #1 in the church's playbook.

AdmiralHoldo wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:26 am I think he misinterpreted the scriptures about "waxing strong"

ETA: or maybe it's essential oils he and Susan found in the Closet of Mysteries

"Elder Shiny" and Susan's Oil of Olay?