Keeping up with Trump

[Hagoth]

And even though I show you evidence you simply turn a blind eye like any other good cult member would do.

But that's because you consistently mistake rumor for evidence. I have no problem with you believing whatever works for you but if the evidence was not good enough to pass muster in any court I simply can't take it seriously.

[Cnsl1]

Trump's behavior post election has reinforced my suspicion of a narcissistic personality disorder.

I'm not saying his diminishing number of followers are a cult, but for them to insinuate that the mainstream research and evidence based followers are cult-minded is completely asinine. It seems like anything that turns up against their demi-god is now considered part of the great conspiracy of evil. Good Lord, save us from the stupidity of the ignorant who have the energy of the first month multi level marketer. From those with Trump colored glasses and AK47s in their pickup. From filter-less shock monkeys like Limbaugh, who seem hell bent on a civil war. Good God please, may their blinders be lifted and may virtue and integrity and charity fill their hearts once again. May they become more like little children and less like teen aged rebels without a cause.

Amen

[SaidNobody]

And even though I show you evidence you simply turn a blind eye like any other good cult member would do.

But that's because you consistently mistake rumor for evidence. I have no problem with you believing whatever works for you but if the evidence was not good enough to pass muster in any court I simply can't take it seriously.

It's just strange because that makes me extra suspicious. 60 lawsuits with perhaps 100,000 plus points of evidence and not one seem to be acceptable to a court? Be like trying to run through a hurricane and saying not one drop of water hit you.

While what you just said seems like evidence to you It seems like corruption or secret agenda to me.

Of course I would never be able to find anything in mainstream media that backed up any claim of fraud. But if you're willing to look beyond mainstream media and a little bit.

Audit Finds Mich. County's Dominion Voting Was Rigged to Create Fraud

https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/artic ... id=1001505

[shrugged]

Which PA County had 597k Biden votes come in at 3am after they were done counting the vote?


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[Hagoth]

https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/artic ... id=1001505

Dude, if you don't trust media you better turn some of your critical analysis on the reliability of Newsmax.

Did the machines also tamper with the hand-counted votes? Here's some video of how they mobilized for that:
https://youtu.be/VsOPjwuxaEg?t=150

If you will recall, Trump tried to set up a legal system that would support him in his attempted overthrow. He placed supportive Republican judges in every court that he could and even in the Supreme Court. He chose a Cybersecurity Chief to ensure the vote wasn't rigged. He had a Attorney General whose lips were practically sewn to his ass. It didn't work. All of those people had more integrity and more allegiance to their nation than to the swamp stirrer.

Now all of those people are part of "corruption or secret agenda"?

I suspect you don't actually believe any of that, but it makes for good argument fodder.

[Hagoth]

...Limbaugh, who seem hell bent on a civil war.

You mean the guy who received the Presidential Medal of Honor and a few months later is calling for the destruction of America?

[SaidNobody]

Which PA County had 597k Biden votes come in at 3am after they were done counting the vote?


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Not one hundred percent about this, but I think it was Philadelphia, in Philadelphia country.

Here is a site that lays out some of the issues.

https://grayseconomy.com/2020/12/01/the ... -election/

[moksha]

Whether I'm right or wrong, this is a projected path of win.

Or delusion, or armed revolution. Could you imagine Trump dressed in a Napoleon suit?

[wtfluff]

He's kidding, right? Someone tell me he's kidding.

River

I'd say about 33% delusional, 33% trolling for the sake of argument, and 33% one of those people who can never admit to being wrong. You know the type from Mormon apologetics. But SaidNobody is much better behaved than some of those guys. And that's why we love him.

Far, FAR too kind on your percentages Hagoth.

[Hagoth]

I have already addressed this several times.

Here is a site that lays out some of the issues.
https://grayseconomy.com/2020/12/01/the ... -election/

And here's Snopes' explanation: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trum ... ote-dumps/

Trump is so obviously play acting when he, "I was winning when I went to bed and I was losing when I woke up. Someone must have cheated!" Either that or he is a complete moron. If he had been listening to anyone but his yes men he would have known that was exactly what would happen, just like everybody else did.

Don't forget. Trump made the same claims in 2016 when he thought he was going to lose, but suddenly everything was hunky-dory when he won. This time around when he knew he was going to lose so he started telling everybody a year in advance that he was going to claim voter fraud if he didn't win. That is soooo transparent.

All you need to do to understand what happened here is talk to your neighbors. I know many people who voted for Trump in 2016 and regretted it, so they voted for Biden this time around. I haven't met anybody who went the other direction.

But I have said all of this a couple of times already, so I guess it's time to give it a rest. Biden won fair and square. Hail to the chief.

[shrugged]

Hagoth- I think a couple of your prior posts are missing some links. A video re hand counting above and something from Snopes. I only mention because I’d genuinely like to see them.


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[shrugged]

And even though I show you evidence you simply turn a blind eye like any other good cult member would do.

But that's because you consistently mistake rumor for evidence. I have no problem with you believing whatever works for you but if the evidence was not good enough to pass muster in any court I simply can't take it seriously.

It's just strange because that makes me extra suspicious. 60 lawsuits with perhaps 100,000 plus points of evidence and not one seem to be acceptable to a court? Be like trying to run through a hurricane and saying not one drop of water hit you.

While what you just said seems like evidence to you It seems like corruption or secret agenda to me.

Of course I would never be able to find anything in mainstream media that backed up any claim of fraud. But if you're willing to look beyond mainstream media and a little bit.

Audit Finds Mich. County's Dominion Voting Was Rigged to Create Fraud

https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/artic ... id=1001505

This report is authored by the same team who previously filed an affidavit offering as proof of fraud in Michigan 19 counties where votes exceeded registered voters. Except all 19 counties were in Minnesota (and the voter turnout percentages were inaccurate as well).




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[SaidNobody]

I have already addressed this several times.

Here is a site that lays out some of the issues.
https://grayseconomy.com/2020/12/01/the ... -election/

And here's Snopes' explanation: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trum ... ote-dumps/

Trump is so obviously play acting when he, "I was winning when I went to bed and I was losing when I woke up. Someone must have cheated!" Either that or he is a complete moron. If he had been listening to anyone but his yes men he would have known that was exactly what would happen, just like everybody else did.

Don't forget. Trump made the same claims in 2016 when he thought he was going to lose, but suddenly everything was hunky-dory when he won. This time around when he knew he was going to lose so he started telling everybody a year in advance that he was going to claim voter fraud if he didn't win. That is soooo transparent.

All you need to do to understand what happened here is talk to your neighbors. I know many people who voted for Trump in 2016 and regretted it, so they voted for Biden this time around. I haven't met anybody who went the other direction.

But I have said all of this a couple of times already, so I guess it's time to give it a rest. Biden won fair and square. Hail to the chief.

I love you guys and I'm going to hang around. But you guys are very clueless about who controls the information that you believe. I don't consider myself a smart man and I know that sometimes I sound disjointed and perhaps even a little misinformed. But I'm very distrustful of sources. If I can go to CNN and get the story and then go to BBC and get the exact same story and then go to ABC and get the exact same story I know something's wrong. When people are coordinating their facts it isn't the truth.

But Snopes is not entrusted. And when I say they are far super left it is bad. They found funding from high up but they are still super super left.

[moksha]

...Limbaugh, who seem hell bent on a civil war.

You mean the guy who received the Presidential Medal of Honor and a few months later is calling for the destruction of America?

That will remain one of the most bizarre twists in both the Trump saga and the history of American awards. Receiving a Presidential Medal of Freedom and committing sedition against America in the same year is memorable in a horrific sort of way.

[Hagoth]

Hagoth- I think a couple of your prior posts are missing some links. A video re hand counting above and something from Snopes. I only mention because I’d genuinely like to see them.

Hmm. That's weird.

Just cut and paste this:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump ... ote-dumps/

and this:
https://youtu.be/VsOPjwuxaEg?t=150

[moksha]

Trump is so obviously play acting when he, "I was winning when I went to bed and I was losing when I woke up. Someone must have cheated!" Either that or he is a complete moron.

Or a complete grifter. He has taken in around 200 million in his defense scam.

[Hagoth]

But I'm very distrustful of sources. If I can go to CNN and get the story and then go to BBC and get the exact same story and then go to ABC and get the exact same story I know something's wrong. When people are coordinating their facts it isn't the truth.

I would argue that you are over-trusting of bogus sources and under-trusting semi-reliable ones.

I'm not saying that news sources are fully reliable and that they aren't skewed and omissive, but are you telling me you automatically reject a story merely because there is agreement about it? When scientists all over the world repeat an experiment and get the same results you must conclude that they are all lying? Better to stick with the one who gets a different result. Or better yet, just some tweets that claim that some guy got a different result.

So if everyone reports an earthquake in Afghanistan it must be a lie? Or do they only lie when it comes to Trump? You don't even need to worry about the news sources. Trump tells you when he's hatching a scam. And then he does it. And people still fall for it.

[moksha]

SaidNobody, there is always the option of Giuliani taking his case to Judge Judy.

[SaidNobody]

SaidNobody, there is always the option of Giuliani taking his case to Judge Judy.

Would probably be Judge Jeanine.

Nice work, you make a joke.

[Hagoth]

But Snopes is not entrusted.

They are universally hated by Trumpers, anti-vaxxers, climate deniers, holocaust deniers, moon landing deniers, flat earthers, chemtrail believers, ancient alien enthusiasts, and Alex Jones listeners.