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moksha wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:33 am If evidence actually existed it would be presented in court.
This is so true. But this is a massive fraud and much of the evidence is also far too massive to present. And a lot of the evidence while massive is also been destroyed. For example Pennsylvania began destroying the envelopes of the mail-in ballots. It was the envelopes that had the people's names and signatures on them. The ballots themselves have no identifying markers as to who did it or when or where they came from.

I don't know all the fancy rules about submitting evidence in court but I've heard that you should try to have as much as you can before you start and that constantly reintroducing new evidence becomes tedious and pointless.

As I understand it it will be submitted to court next week. I am with you on the frustration of not knowing what will happen. I'm not going to lie to you, some days this feels like a tease. But there are several different spearheads on this effort and there does seem like they really have something.

After the Mullier probe and the countless bombshells and explosive material that never came forward this is a bit nerve-wracking.

But what I would suggest to you is that instead of taking the media's word if there is no evidence and that there was no fraud that perhaps you look beyond the mainstream media at what has happened.

I hear them say a thousand times over that it is all without evidence. But having all of our elections somehow been without corruption or that there is no evidence when there has been accusations of corruption? Like isn't that weird do you? That the most powerful seats in the world are fought over and somehow no one has committed a fraud or at least tried? Do you really have that kind of faith in our politicians?

At 3:00 in the morning on November 4th Trump was winning Pennsylvania by almost 600,000 votes. Suddenly about 600,000 votes came in and 570,000 them were for Biden and 3,200 were for Trump. By the time the county was done Trump's more than a half a million vote lead gone down to a few thousand vote loss. Now I know that your confirmation bias is that there's no fraud here. But just run the numbers in your head and see if they make sense. Does any demographic really vote 99.5% in One direction?

You need to know that I do respect your opinion on many things. You have a lot of wisdom and insight. So it actually surprises me That You Don't see or are unwilling to see the fraud here. Or even at the very least the possibility of the fraud. It's not actually fraud until it is proven in court. And so when they say that there is no proof of fraud that is true. There is no proof. But there is so much evidence that it's overwhelming. In some states depending on what level you were at all the Democratic contenders received an extra 35,000 votes that cannot be accounted for. Now I'm sure that the local township manager didn't get an extra 35,000 but the senators and the Congress people did.

But it isn't proof until it has been processed by the courts. That is coming next week. I hope for America's sake that they prove that it's fraud. Because if they don't, their probably won't be another election. Too many people believe this is wrong. And if it simply gets wiped under the carpet who knows what will happen next.

It's a tricky place to defend. I know that the government has protected the concept of a secure elections at the expense of countless cases and evidences of fraud. They are never worth casting doubt on the election. Thousands upon thousands of vote harvesters have been identified. These are people who go about collecting or harvesting people's votes in a way that they get to decide how they're cast. So say that the city mayor wants to get re-elected but isn't particularly popular. Maybe through traditional means they can get within 5%. They hire these vote harvesters to take them over the finish line at quite an extraordinary rate. These people do this all year long. The payday may be into the hundreds of thousands. It might only be a few thousand depending on if the candidate only needs a few hundred votes. But these frauds aren't about casting the entire election but just enough to tip the balance. And that's what happened in all of the toss-up States. Trump was winning big and then all of a sudden at sometime in the middle of the night the winds changed and he lost by a few.

Trump went out in full force to gather his supporters. Support like has never been seen before for a president came out. He won more votes than any sitting president in history. Yet to beat that, the guy that sat in the basement, had to win even more votes than that breaking the record yet again.

I know that such a unlikely circumstance isn't enough to overturn the election. However, it appears that whoever did this had to inject so many votes into the machines and into the counting process that it was impossible to hide what they were doing. The Republican poll watchers were physically ejected from the sites. Pennsylvania passed three laws just days before the election. They extended the voting time, removed the signature validation requirement, and blocked Republican poll workers from observing the county processes.

I know it seems that we are trying to undermine the election process but we are actually trying to defend it. We don't trust it and we haven't trusted it for years and now we know that we were right. If there can't be Justice their probably won't be another election.
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Well a panel of 3 Republican judges on the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals has upheld the Republican District judge’s decision to reject Trump’s challenge to the PA election, writing “Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here”


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shrugged wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:19 pm Well a panel of 3 Republican judges on the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals has upheld the Republican District judge’s decision to reject Trump’s challenge to the PA election, writing “Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here”


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Thank you for posting this. Now I don't have to. It would have made me look like a jerk.

So what just happened here is sort of interesting. The lawyers presented the charges without any evidence. The courts did the right thing and shot it down with a strong rebuke. The case is also on to the SCOTUS without any delays in the third circuit. There the evidence will be presented. There, hopefully, justice will happen. Am I right? Justice?
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shrugged wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:19 pm Well a panel of 3 Republican judges on the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals has upheld the Republican District judge’s decision to reject Trump’s challenge to the PA election, writing “Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here”


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Thank you for posting this. Now I don't have to. It would have made me look like a jerk.

So what just happened here is sort of interesting. The lawyers presented the charges without any evidence. The courts did the right thing and shot it down with a strong rebuke. The case is also on to the SCOTUS without any delays in the third circuit. There the evidence will be presented. There, hopefully, justice will happen. Am I right? Justice?
I’m personally of the opinion that this should never go beyond PA courts. We are a republic and it should be up to PA alone who and how they determine how to cast their 20 electoral votes. But we shall see if the SC will hear the case.


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shrugged wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:50 pm I’m personally of the opinion that this should never go beyond PA courts. We are a republic and it should be up to PA alone who and how they determine how to cast their 20 electoral votes. But we shall see if the SC will hear the case.


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PA was tip of the spear. There is actually a provision that says if one party can prove that the other cheated, in a significant way, that the race goes the plaintiff. There are at least 4 states that are part of this.

I'm not an expert in much of all but I suspect they know what they are doing. One of the most powerful aspect of The Trump Effect is people underestimating him.
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SaidNobody wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:19 pm One of the most powerful aspect of The Trump Effect is people underestimating him.
By now the aspect is probably realizing that whatever Trump says is bogus and self-serving. Can you imagine wanting to get a democratic election overturned to meet your megalomaniacal desire to be a lifetime dictator? That is the Trump Effect.
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moksha wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:14 am
SaidNobody wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:19 pm One of the most powerful aspect of The Trump Effect is people underestimating him.
By now the aspect is probably realizing that whatever Trump says is bogus and self-serving. Can you imagine wanting to get a democratic election overturned to meet your megalomaniacal desire to be a lifetime dictator? That is the Trump Effect.
Just because the media says that it is bogus doesn't make it true. Again, show me one real lie.
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SaidNobody wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:00 am Again, show me one real lie.
Another one? Okay, Trump was never the Michigan Man of the Year. Trump has been repeating that lie for quite some time. He is so brazen that he even repeats the lie when he goes to Michigan.
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moksha wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:47 am
SaidNobody wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:00 am Again, show me one real lie.
Another one? Okay, Trump was never the Michigan Man of the Year. Trump has been repeating that lie for quite some time. He is so brazen that he even repeats the lie when he goes to Michigan.
Alright, again, a lie or a misunderstanding? Trump has always been a pretty famous guy and like a rock star might not always remember the exact details of every gig he does. Back in 2013, he was invited to be the Keynote Speaker at the Lincoln Day Dinner and the republicans gave him a couple of awards/gifts. There is no video of the event, but some suspect a couple of jokes were made about him being Michigan Man of the Year if they had one or something like that. The gifts were because he had done so much for the state's economy. Five years later, on the stump, he recalled the event as being given the Michigan Man of the Year award. The guy that had invited Trump to speak at that event found himself sitting with the president 5 years later when it was brought up again. At this time, that man didn't think it was a smart move to correct the president's misunderstanding of the event.

Again, this doesn't count as a lie in my book. This isn't like Senator Richard Blumenthal's "I'm a Vietnam Vet" (stolen valor) lie. Trump was there, got the gifts, was thanked for his work, and "perhaps" was given the impression he was Michigan's Man of the Year. He obviously isn't aware that there isn't such an award, or why would he be lying about having it. He knows people fact check him. He was awarded (or gifted) by high-level Michigan officials for his effort. So, I might grant that his ego twisted this one a little, but it doesn't seem like an overt lie.

So, doesn't count.
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SaidNobody wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:12 am
moksha wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:47 am
SaidNobody wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:00 am Again, show me one real lie.
Another one? Okay, Trump was never the Michigan Man of the Year. Trump has been repeating that lie for quite some time. He is so brazen that he even repeats the lie when he goes to Michigan.
Alright, again, a lie or a misunderstanding? Trump has always been a pretty famous guy and like a rock star might not always remember the exact details of every gig he does. So, I might grant that his ego twisted this one a little, but it doesn't seem like an overt lie.

So, doesn't count.
Trump has a case of malignant narcissism. That is why he is always puffing himself up, with as he says, the best words. Through the miracle of the replay, we have seen him repeating this lie over fifteen times in the last several years. Each time there a news story about how the award never happened. Even a mistaken but conscientious teller of the truth would pick up on this, but Trump is saddled with malignant narcissism and is a pathological liar to boot.

According to Forbes business magazine, Trump tells an average of 23.3 lies a day. Your story is akin to a farmer holding up a near-solid cowpie and exclaiming, "isn't that smell the best ever". Trump is the most dishonest man to ever hold the office of the President.
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moksha wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:36 pm
Trump is the most dishonest man to ever hold the office of the President.
I have had to look up the word narcissist dozens of times over the last few years to keep up with its meaning in my debates. Of course, I have a different opinion about it than most.

There are typical narcissistic behaviors that are perhaps a little bit different than Narcissus of the ancient Greek. Narcissus loved himself perhaps to the extreme. Modern narcissism is more of a denial of wrong doing or of defect. In other words, in a relationship The narcissist will blame everyone else when something goes wrong. The narcissist does things like gaslighting to make people feel guilty for things that they have a right to have.

Narcissists are not typically the type of people to fight for the freedom of speech or other people. They are not the type of people who want to empower others to defend themselves. they are not the type of people to take the kind of bullshit from the reporters and journalists the Trump has taken over the years. They are not the type of people who think beyond themselves enough to make plans such as building great projects and fulfilling impossible promises.

I don't doubt the Trump loves himself. And why should he not? There are hundreds of millions of people in the United States and around the world that love him. He is the "shit," so to speak.

But his love for himself is something that I recognize as practiced and honed as a point of science or art. He wants to be good. He wants to be best. But he knows that is an effort that only someone who loves themself can achieve.

There have been dozens of times where he would be taking questions from the audience, pre his politician days. Someone would compliment him and then turn and begin to put themselves down because they were not able to keep up with their own dreams. And he would take the time to tell that person and the entire audience to never put themselves down that they would never overcome they're obstacles if they were putting themselves down.

This is typical Tony Robbins self improvement philosophy but it is also true. If you are putting yourself down your internal spirit and psyche will not deliver the power necessary to achieve your goals.

A typical modern narcissist will attack people because they might feel insecure. I can tell that once in a while Trump feels insecure but it is seldomly or never the reason he attacks people. He attacks them to crush them as the enemies that he perceives them to be. That is why he went after Obama and the Democrat Party in general.

One of the pitfalls in politics is that once you make a stand on something you have to stay standing on it. I have learned from working on job sites in foreign countries that you do not back down from your position even if you discover later that you were wrong. If you want to maintain a sense of authority you get the resources that you need admitting that you were wrong can be fatal. It's not quite like a romantic relationship where admitting that you were wrong is somehow the bigger person.

Anyway, I don't believe Trump is the typical modern narcissist as we have defined them. I know there are several different configurations that narcissists come in. Trump wants to be the best. And he might claim to be the best as he actually is in many cases. Like show me a major party in a state that randomly gifted Joe Biden an honor for actually improving things in a state. But where he got the presidential medal of Honor alongside the likes of Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein and Ellen DeGeneres who makes it seem rather fake. President Obama got the Nobel Peace prize for winning the election.

Good night I was reading about Jill Biden. She was married before and her ex-husband said that she was having an affair with Joe Biden, while his wife was still alive. Joe Biden's wife mysteriously died in a car accident with their newborn child, leaving a void for Jill to step into, not that she wasn't already filling those shoes. But the official story is that they met on a blind date.

I'm not saying that makes Joe Biden a narcissist or even Jill a psycho killer. But that to me is an actual lie. There was no mistake or misunderstanding they simply lied. They started out with a lie and they defended it.

Anyway, I have no problem with Trump builds himself up. As I said, no other person could have stood up to the nasty attacks that the media has launched at him. Nobody's ego could have taken the full on vicious slaughter that he has had to deal with. And thank God it's as big as it is because that ego is going to save America.
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SaidNobody wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:38 pm
moksha wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:33 am If evidence actually existed it would be presented in court.
This is so true. But this is a massive fraud and much of the evidence is also far too massive to present.
This is probably one of the dumbest things I've heard, regarding this whole election fraud mess. But it gave me a good laugh, so thanks for that.
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hmb wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:20 am
SaidNobody wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:38 pm
moksha wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:33 am If evidence actually existed it would be presented in court.
This is so true. But this is a massive fraud and much of the evidence is also far too massive to present.
This is probably one of the dumbest things I've heard, regarding this whole election fraud mess. But it gave me a good laugh, so thanks for that.
I'm happy that I could give you a laugh. And I don't always know how to phrase things in the best way. It's one of the reasons my posts tend to be too long.

My point is is that the evidence is not a couple of boxes of letters and photographs or even have a bloody glove. It's more like truck loads worth balance that have the wrong type of watermark. Or even train loads of envelopes that were not validated.

Some of the most obvious evidence is the antidote evidence. Why was that at about 3:00 in the morning on November 4th Trump was winning by about a half a million in five of the swing States. They all stopped counting for a little bit and when they started counting again Biden was up 600,000. A batch of votes had come in (PA) with about 570,000 votes for Biden and about 3,200 votes for Trump. Somehow these mysterious votes have not been validated and the Republican pole watchers were rejected from the room.

So also by massive evidence I'm talking about 10,000 witnesses that need to testify. Also the strategy was never to get this case hung up in the lower courts. The goal was to go straight to the supreme Court which they have done by presenting their case but with no evidence.
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SaidNobody wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:27 am My point is is that the evidence is not a couple of boxes of letters and photographs or even have a bloody glove. It's more like green loads worth balance that have the wrong type of watermark. Or even train loads of envelopes that were not validated.
Or it could be like the Emperor's new clothes, concocted by a crafty tailor out of nothing with the sole purpose of catering to a vain and buffoonish Emperor.
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moksha wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:33 am
SaidNobody wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:27 am My point is is that the evidence is not a couple of boxes of letters and photographs or even have a bloody glove. It's more like green loads worth balance that have the wrong type of watermark. Or even train loads of envelopes that were not validated.
Or it could be like the Emperor's new clothes, concocted by a crafty tailor out of nothing with the sole purpose of catering to a vain and buffoonish Emperor.
Maybe. Let me ask you a question.

During the last four years did you ever get frustrated at hearing things like "we got him this time, bombshell information, this should end the Trump administration, there is no way he can weasel his way out of this one, his presidency will be over before he even starts, the walls are coming down, the walls are caving in, it's all collapsing?"

I cannot predict the future. I don't know how bad this really is in terms of how powerful the corruptors are. They never had anything on him, ever. They tried their best to get him. Even not knowing how this will pan out I'm not ashamed to say he won this election. And not just because I'm being stubborn but because I think that he will.
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SaidNobody, either you are a world-class denier like Kellyanne Conway and Kayleigh McEnany or you are putting us on. Some people have a very limited short term memory, so perhaps you can pull that Trump revitalization on them in the future. For right now, those of us who have been watching the news for the last four years are not so gullible.
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SaidNobody wrote: Some of the most obvious evidence is the antidote evidence. Why was that at about 3:00 in the morning on November 4th Trump was winning by about a half a million in five of the swing States. They all stopped counting for a little bit and when they started counting again Biden was up 600,000. A batch of votes had come in (PA) with about 570,000 votes for Biden and about 3,200 votes for Trump. Somehow these mysterious votes have not been validated and the Republican pole watchers were rejected from the room.
This simply didn’t happen. We all watched the vote tallies in the swing states. Trump led in many at 3am and then SLOWLY I’ve the coming hours and days, as expected, the mail in ballots were tallied and favored Biden. They gradually chipped away at Trumps lead. Show me where Biden gained 570,000 votes in one batch.


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shrugged wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:53 am
SaidNobody wrote: Some of the most obvious evidence is the antidote evidence. Why was that at about 3:00 in the morning on November 4th Trump was winning by about a half a million in five of the swing States. They all stopped counting for a little bit and when they started counting again Biden was up 600,000. A batch of votes had come in (PA) with about 570,000 votes for Biden and about 3,200 votes for Trump. Somehow these mysterious votes have not been validated and the Republican pole watchers were rejected from the room.
This simply didn’t happen. We all watched the vote tallies in the swing states. Trump led in many at 3am and then SLOWLY I’ve the coming hours and days, as expected, the mail in ballots were tallied and favored Biden. They gradually chipped away at Trumps lead. Show me where Biden gained 570,000 votes in one batch.


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This is how it appeared on TV but witnesses say that's not how it happened in The counting room. I am told that those votes will be presented in the Pennsylvania case at the supreme Court. I haven't seen them myself so I'm hoping it will be good.
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moksha wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:53 am SaidNobody, either you are a world-class denier like Kellyanne Conway and Kayleigh McEnany or you are putting us on. Some people have a very limited short term memory, so perhaps you can pull that Trump revitalization on them in the future. For right now, those of us who have been watching the news for the last four years are not so gullible.
With all due respect moksha, that is the most gullible thing I've heard yet.

I could only dream of being a world-class denier like Kelly Conway and Kayleigh McEnany. Those ladies have it going on.
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Not that it matters but Gavin Newsoms isn’t Nancy Pelosi’s nephew. Her brother in law is his uncle by marriage.

Harvey Weinstein was never given a Presidential Medal of Freedom.

Might want to check your sources.


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