I don't know. That was rough.
Saturday Morning NOMference!!!!
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Hey looks like oaks was the only one not wearing a mask!
"And I don't need you...or, your homespun philosophies."
"And when you try to break my spirit, it won't work, because there's nothing left to break."
"And when you try to break my spirit, it won't work, because there's nothing left to break."
Re: Saturday Morning NOMference!!!!
I need a nap.
...walked eye-deep in hell
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound
Re: Saturday Morning NOMference!!!!
Maybe he will join Trump and the hospital. I have a feeling they would be best buddies.Mormorrisey wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:49 am Hey looks like oaks was the only one not wearing a mask!
...walked eye-deep in hell
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound
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Awwwwww, such relief. I didn’t have to suffer through any of that. My TBM sweetheart is outside figuring out how to put his tools in the new garage (prefab, delivered just the other day, and really so we can leave the ATVs in Idaho over the winter, not for a car) And he didn’t even turn conference on. Talk about tender mercies. Sorry y’all with believing spouses that force you to watch.
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That is a fascinating connection. I only half listened to his talk and thought maybe it would actually help with the political sickness in our nation and elsewhere. Definitely too little too late in that regard. While I agree that political protest should be non-violent, I am not sure that he wasn't taking sides here. At least it will be taken that way by some. So it may end up being what I would call a horoscope talk, vague enough for anyone to take it any way they want.Mormorrisey wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:32 amDon't forget, his daughter played at the LDS for Trump rally in Arizona. He's chosen his side.
When an honest man discovers he is mistaken, he will either cease to be mistaken or cease to be honest. -anon
The belief that there is only one truth, and that oneself is in possession of it, is the root of all evil in the world. -Max Born
The belief that there is only one truth, and that oneself is in possession of it, is the root of all evil in the world. -Max Born
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Yes totally!DPRoberts wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:15 pmThat is a fascinating connection. I only half listened to his talk and thought maybe it would actually help with the political sickness in our nation and elsewhere. Definitely too little too late in that regard. While I agree that political protest should be non-violent, I am not sure that he wasn't taking sides here. At least it will be taken that way by some. So it may end up being what I would call a horoscope talk, vague enough for anyone to take it any way they want.Mormorrisey wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:32 amDon't forget, his daughter played at the LDS for Trump rally in Arizona. He's chosen his side.
He did say some things that could be cherry picked to preach against racism. And I hope some of the things he said will make some super alt-right TBMs take a step back. Or at least the more moderate/left TBMs will have some things to work with now.
He never directly acknowledged the church's racist past and current racial issues. And that is really what Black TBMs want, at least the Black TBMs I know.
He, like so many other people, really only focus on the violence of the riots which is a SYMPTOM. He didn't directly focus on the DISEASE, systemic racism and white supremacy.
Harping on abut unity is the church's way of side stepping the problem of racism. It's not helpful. It's quite hurtful to the people who have to deal with racism.
...walked eye-deep in hell
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound
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Calling out angry people without acknowledging the source of their anger is what the church is built on. Greedy people were angry Joseph Smith wouldn't show them the plates (because he had taken money to find buried treasure and not produced). People were mad at Joseph Smith and tarred and feathered him (because he was boinking everybody's wife/sister/daughter). A mob was so mad at Joseph Smith that they murdered him (because he destroyed a printing press that was going to spread the truth about his philandering).
This is play #1 in the church's playbook.
"I would write about life. Every person would be exactly as important as any other. All facts would also be given equal weightiness. Nothing would be left out. Let others bring order to chaos. I would bring chaos to order" - Kurt Vonnegut
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"Elder Shiny" and Susan's Oil of Olay?AdmiralHoldo wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:26 am I think he misinterpreted the scriptures about "waxing strong"
ETA: or maybe it's essential oils he and Susan found in the Closet of Mysteries
Good faith does not require evidence, but it also does not turn a blind eye to that evidence. Otherwise, it becomes misplaced faith.
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-- Moksha