Reuben wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:46 amYeah, but he's our asshole.AdmiralHoldo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:43 am Too bad the A**hole God that Holland is accusing other religions of believing in is THE EXACT GOD THAT WE BELIEVE IN.
Sunday Morning NOMference!!
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...walked eye-deep in hell
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound
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I don't know Holland. Don't fool yourself. Hindsight is a very different thing.
It's easy to say you hope for, or would do many things you have today or know about today. But if you were raised in the 1800s away from Mormonism, you'd likely be just as committed to your falsehoods you were raised with then as you are now.
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It's easy to say you hope for, or would do many things you have today or know about today. But if you were raised in the 1800s away from Mormonism, you'd likely be just as committed to your falsehoods you were raised with then as you are now.
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Well, I'm better than dirt! Ah, well... most kinds of dirt; not that fancy store-bought dirt; that stuff is loaded with nutrients. I can't compete with that stuff. -Moe Sizlack
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He mentioned COVID +5
...walked eye-deep in hell
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound
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Mormorrisey
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About time someone talked about covid-19. +10 for Holland on this one.
"And I don't need you...or, your homespun philosophies."
"And when you try to break my spirit, it won't work, because there's nothing left to break."
"And when you try to break my spirit, it won't work, because there's nothing left to break."
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Ooo, it's getting good.
We don’t see things as they are, we see them as we are.
– Anais Nin
– Anais Nin
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How often has “restoration” been said for April conference?
200?
200?
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+5 for mentioning health care professional +100 for mention poetry, hunger etc.
-100 for leaving out gender inequality.
-100 for leaving out gender inequality.
...walked eye-deep in hell
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound
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+20 for FINALLY mentioning COVID19
-100 for hoping to cure hunger, poverty, etc without touching $100+B
-100 for hoping to cure hunger, poverty, etc without touching $100+B
Well, I'm better than dirt! Ah, well... most kinds of dirt; not that fancy store-bought dirt; that stuff is loaded with nutrients. I can't compete with that stuff. -Moe Sizlack
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Mormorrisey
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Or sexual orientation.
"And I don't need you...or, your homespun philosophies."
"And when you try to break my spirit, it won't work, because there's nothing left to break."
"And when you try to break my spirit, it won't work, because there's nothing left to break."
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lostinmiddlemormonism
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+200 for actually talking about the virus...and providing some hope. +100 as well for talking about hunger and poverty. +100 for talking about school violence. +100 for talking about against racial prejudice.
Ok. Holland did ok in this talk. True Kudos.
Patience and forgiveness. This is good stuff! Let's talk about a better world. Yes! Yes! Yes!
Ok. Holland did ok in this talk. True Kudos.
Patience and forgiveness. This is good stuff! Let's talk about a better world. Yes! Yes! Yes!
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+10 for Love God and Love Neighbors
Well, I'm better than dirt! Ah, well... most kinds of dirt; not that fancy store-bought dirt; that stuff is loaded with nutrients. I can't compete with that stuff. -Moe Sizlack
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Yay, Big Jeff! +50 for talking about the elephant in the room and trying to give hope.
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Yes. But he did miss some stuff. But you could easily add those things to a lesson/talk about this talk. He gave us some good progressive material.lostinmiddlemormonism wrote: ↑Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:50 am +200 for actually talking about the virus...and providing some hope. +100 as well for talking about hunger and poverty. +100 for talking about school violence. +100 for talking about against racial prejudice.
Ok. Holland did ok in this talk. True Kudos.
Patience and forgiveness. This is good stuff! Let's talk about a better world. Yes! Yes! Yes!
...walked eye-deep in hell
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound
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Mormorrisey
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+50 for recognizing that there is a problem with religion today. Kudos Jeff!
"And I don't need you...or, your homespun philosophies."
"And when you try to break my spirit, it won't work, because there's nothing left to break."
"And when you try to break my spirit, it won't work, because there's nothing left to break."
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+50 for recognizing today's religious short comings.
Well, I'm better than dirt! Ah, well... most kinds of dirt; not that fancy store-bought dirt; that stuff is loaded with nutrients. I can't compete with that stuff. -Moe Sizlack
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Mormorrisey
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Maybe he needs to see that his own religion isn't offering much either. Not in this day, anyway.
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"And I don't need you...or, your homespun philosophies."
"And when you try to break my spirit, it won't work, because there's nothing left to break."
"And when you try to break my spirit, it won't work, because there's nothing left to break."
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AdmiralHoldo
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I either love or hate Holland's talks. No middle ground. I was wishy washy about the beginning (he really, really doesn't understand the state of religion in early 19th century America) but this is good.
Poverty and school shootings are things that have affected my family directly. But they aren't the kind of things GA's like to talk about.
Poverty and school shootings are things that have affected my family directly. But they aren't the kind of things GA's like to talk about.
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Jeez Holland, I know a church with billions of dollars that could help with some of all that.
We don’t see things as they are, we see them as we are.
– Anais Nin
– Anais Nin
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lostinmiddlemormonism
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I like the charity to others part.
Thank you Holland. Yes, there were parts of this that could have been better, but this was the best talk of conference so far I believe.
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Thank you Holland. Yes, there were parts of this that could have been better, but this was the best talk of conference so far I believe.
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