Rumors of the Handbook Changes Generally True

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Would some people/bishops count NOM as apostate? :(
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deacon blues wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:33 am Would some people/bishops count NOM as apostate? :(
Some have. Most don't.
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Red Ryder wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:27 am I just realized an epiphany.

Minutes thinking about handbooks as TBM: 0
Minutes thinking about handbooks as NOM: 100+

What is wrong with us? :oops:
:lol: So true^

I guess it's because were were taught not to think when we were TBM. We just obeyed because we really believed that whatever the brethren said was the same as God saying it.
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believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound
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deacon blues wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:33 am Would some people/bishops count NOM as apostate? :(

Very much depends on the bishop, but I think most are just happy to have another butt in the seat as long as they don't cause too much trouble.
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MoPag wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:00 am
Red Ryder wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:27 am I just realized an epiphany.

Minutes thinking about handbooks as TBM: 0
Minutes thinking about handbooks as NOM: 100+

What is wrong with us? :oops:
:lol: So true^

I guess it's because were were taught not to think when we were TBM. We just obeyed because we really believed that whatever the brethren said was the same as God saying it.
So much this.

This is why I look forward to General Conference way way way more then I ever did as a TBM. Deconstructing the nonsense is now one of my favourite activities in the whole world. That and how cool non NOMference is.
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Mormorrisey wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:18 am
MoPag wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:00 am
Red Ryder wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:27 am I just realized an epiphany.

Minutes thinking about handbooks as TBM: 0
Minutes thinking about handbooks as NOM: 100+

What is wrong with us? :oops:
:lol: So true^

I guess it's because were were taught not to think when we were TBM. We just obeyed because we really believed that whatever the brethren said was the same as God saying it.
So much this.

This is why I look forward to General Conference way way way more then I ever did as a TBM. Deconstructing the nonsense is now one of my favourite activities in the whole world. That and how cool non NOMference is.
:D
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believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound
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2bizE wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:18 amHandbook 1 and 2 were combined. Is there still another secret handbook for SP?
You can bet on it. There's still a secret portion.
We know there is still a handbook for mission presidents. I would guess there is a handbook for Area 70s and 70s. Is there one for Q15?
I understand there's a small portion for the leaders, which probably includes the 15. I don't recall where I got that idea - from the wording I saw somewhere, maybe.
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