This is for encouragement, ideas, and support for people going through a faith transition no matter where you hope to end up. This is also the place to laugh, cry, and love together.
Every time I drive down I-15 I see that Christian billboard that says "After you die you will meet God."
I know the billboard is intended to scare the bejeezus out of you and make you think, "damn, I better straighten up and call the number on that billboard before it's too late!" but my mental response is always, "I certainly hope so, because I don't believe what anybody down here is saying about him and I would love to get some answers straight from the horse's mouth. Maybe point out to him what a terrible job he's done at making himself and his intentions known to a hundred billion or so of his children."
“The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also.” -Mark Twain
Jesus: "The Kingdom of God is within you." The Buddha: "Be your own light."
Charles Darwin - It would be interesting to talk with the guy who dropped a nuclear bomb on Creationism, but remained married to a faithful Christian. And apparently he enjoyed chatting at the coffee shop, so he's probably a fun guy to talk to anyway.
"I would write about life. Every person would be exactly as important as any other. All facts would also be given equal weightiness. Nothing would be left out. Let others bring order to chaos. I would bring chaos to order" - Kurt Vonnegut
Joseph Smith - so I could kick him in the balls. That bastard screwed things up for me real good.
"The truth is elegantly simple. The lie needs complex apologia. 4 simple words: Joe made it up. It answers everything with the perfect simplicity of Occam's Razor. Every convoluted excuse withers." - Some guy on Reddit called disposazelph
Not Buying It wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:03 am
Joseph Smith - so I could kick him in the balls. That bastard screwed things up for me real good.
Maybe you could take that up with your first relative who joined the church?
It’s crazy to think that my first relatives who joined the church in the 1850’s were just poor immigrants who found a community to support their struggled life.
“It always devolves to Pantaloons. Always.” ~ Fluffy
“I switched baristas” ~ Lady Gaga
“Those who do not move do not notice their chains.” ~Rosa Luxemburg
Red Ryder wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 9:59 amAlthough I’d probably be able to see right through Jesus’ hands.
And wrists!
Not Buying It wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:03 amJoseph Smith - so I could kick him in the balls. That bastard screwed things up for me real good.
THIS is the main reason I want to meet Joe in the afterlife. Steel-toed all white (temple) slippers!
As far as my list, I'm gonna start with the first that popped into my head:
Ranndy Rhoads
Layne Staley
Chris Cornell
Chester Bennington
Explain my answer: Again, the "theme" related to those names was what initially came to mind for me. There are likely hundreds of others related to that theme that I'd like to meet.
Faith does not give you the answers, it just stops you asking the questions. -Frater Ravus
wtfluff wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:00 pm
As far as my list, I'm gonna start with the first that popped into my head:
Ranndy Rhoads
Layne Staley
Chris Cornell
Chester Bennington
Explain my answer: Again, the "theme" related to those names was what initially came to mind for me. There are likely hundreds of others related to that theme that I'd like to meet.
Jesus, Joseph Smith, and those four you listed all died too early.
Perhaps that’s a symptom of greatness? Or fame and fortune and celebrity?
“It always devolves to Pantaloons. Always.” ~ Fluffy
“I switched baristas” ~ Lady Gaga
“Those who do not move do not notice their chains.” ~Rosa Luxemburg
Joseph Smith - so I could kick him in the balls. That bastard screwed things up for me real good.
Before you do that, take a good look at the guy standing next to him with the long hair and disconcerting expression. That's Orrin Porter Rockwell. Might want to look for a good escape route before you follow through with your plan.
wtfluff wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:00 pm
As far as my list, I'm gonna start with the first that popped into my head:
Ranndy Rhoads
Layne Staley
Chris Cornell
Chester Bennington
Explain my answer: Again, the "theme" related to those names was what initially came to mind for me. There are likely hundreds of others related to that theme that I'd like to meet.
Jesus, Joseph Smith, and those four you listed all died too early.
Perhaps that’s a symptom of greatness? Or fame and fortune and celebrity?
Many of them, along with their genius, seem to be tormented souls also...
Faith does not give you the answers, it just stops you asking the questions. -Frater Ravus
wtfluff wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:00 pm
As far as my list, I'm gonna start with the first that popped into my head:
Ranndy Rhoads
Layne Staley
Chris Cornell
Chester Bennington
Explain my answer: Again, the "theme" related to those names was what initially came to mind for me. There are likely hundreds of others related to that theme that I'd like to meet.
My Ancient History professor used to be a rock musician. Randy Rhoads was his mentor. My professor died last year which resulted in my graduate program being cancelled and our lab shut down. So I would like to meet my professor in the afterlife to a) give him a big hug and let him know I'm not holding a grudge against him for dying and leaving me in the lurch and, b) make sure he got back together with Randy for a rock-n-roll heaven sort of jam.
“The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also.” -Mark Twain
Jesus: "The Kingdom of God is within you." The Buddha: "Be your own light."
Grandpa. He was as TBM as one could possibly be. But he gave the shirt off his back to everyone, never said a (really) unkind word about anyone, and loved his grandkids like nothing I will experience again. He preached to me all my life, and I would always roll my eyes to myself when I had to sit through him talking about another gospel application. But I would happily sit through 100 more if I could spend some more time with him.
Suppose it would be easiest to start with those nearest the entrance and work your way down the line. Meeting those you missed the most would put them toward the top of the list. Some would be just for fun: Watching John Belushi down at the Celestial-Cola Emporium or running syllogisms with Socrates while rowing down the River Styx-on-Nauvoo. Just remember, you've got plenty of time, so take it all in.
Good faith does not require evidence, but it also does not turn a blind eye to that evidence. Otherwise, it becomes misplaced faith.
-- Moksha
Not Buying It wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:03 am
Joseph Smith - so I could kick him in the balls. That bastard screwed things up for me real good.
Keewon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:56 pm
Before you do that, take a good look at the guy standing next to him with the long hair and disconcerting expression. That's Orrin Porter Rockwell. Might want to look for a good escape route before you follow through with your plan.
NBI, I will distract Orin so you can kick JS. Deal?
...walked eye-deep in hell
believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound
Not Buying It wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:03 am
Joseph Smith - so I could kick him in the balls. That bastard screwed things up for me real good.
Keewon wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:56 pm
Before you do that, take a good look at the guy standing next to him with the long hair and disconcerting expression. That's Orrin Porter Rockwell. Might want to look for a good escape route before you follow through with your plan.
NBI, I will distract Orin so you can kick JS. Deal?
Deal!
"The truth is elegantly simple. The lie needs complex apologia. 4 simple words: Joe made it up. It answers everything with the perfect simplicity of Occam's Razor. Every convoluted excuse withers." - Some guy on Reddit called disposazelph
At least a short conversation with Pierre de Fermat, a mathematical genius from the 17th century.
Fermat's Last Theorem stumped the math world for over 350 years. He said his proof was too large to fit in the margin of a book, but that proof was lost to history. The current proof of this Theorem is over 1,700 pages long. What was his original idea, because most people are pretty sure it wasn't nearly as involved as what we currently have.
"The story so far: In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." -- Douglas Adams
