Changes in the church

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Re: Changes in the church

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alas wrote: Wed May 08, 2019 11:35 am
wtfluff wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 4:14 pm
jfro18 wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 10:12 am

I've been really into politics on Twitter the last 7 years now, and this comes up more than you'd think... but it is highly controversial for obvious reasons so it hasn't gone anywhere yet.

But with the way that the LGBT movement has become so much more accepted, I could see this being a step that comes once Democrats control everything again. But probably done in a much softer way to start forcing churches to be more open to LGBTs or lose tax-exempt... otherwise it would never pass. But the church needs to be ready to adjust quickly if that happens.
Yeah, I've never put much thought into this until today...

Logically: Any organization performing marriage ceremonies is doing so as proxy for the government. It only makes sense that said proxy should have to obey the law. Just like a civil clerk cannot deny same sex couples a marriage license because of the law, organizations acting as the government and performing marriage ceremonies should have to do the same.
The clerk represents the government. The temple sealer does not. He is NOT doing proxy work for the government. He represents the church, and then the government recognizes the marriage. The government could theoretically refuse to recognize the marriage performed by churches and in some countries they require all marriages be performed by the government. But in the US, the government has always agreed to recognize religious marriages as long as they meet legal requirements So, no, religions are not required to follow government rules. Religions have the religious freedom to refuse to marry any one they want to discriminate against. The Supreme Court has upheld this.
:lol: I think you missed the bold word froggy:
wtfluff wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 4:14 pmLogically: Any organization performing marriage ceremonies is doing so as proxy for the government.
But of course, we're talking about religion, mingled with politics/government; Logic. Doesn't. Matter.
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