Metal plates not such a big surprise afterall

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Re: Metal plates not such a big surprise afterall

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Some of my favorite parts of Facsimile 2 are the ones that are not be "given in the own due time of the Lord" or "to be had in the Holy Temple of God," because, more than anything else they show that Joseph was just pulling it all out of his Inner Darkness, especially where he copied lost characters out of another text, often upside down and in hierarchic script, rather than the rest of the document's heiroglyphics, completely ignorant of what stupid mistakes he was making. Here are Joseph's translations an the actual Egyptian translations of a few of those:

Figure 8
Joseph: "Contains writing that cannot be revealed unto the world; but is to be had in the Holy Temple of God."
Actual translation: "grant that the soul of Osiris Shechonk may live."

Figure 12
Joseph: "will be given in the own due time of the Lord."
Actual translation:(upside down) "near" and "wrap"

Figure 13
Joseph: "will be given in the own due time of the Lord."
Actual translation(upside down) "which made by"

Figure 15
Joseph:"will be given in the own due time of the Lord."
Actual translation: (upside down) "this book"

Figure 17
Joseph: "will be given in the own due time of the Lord."
Actual translation:"May this tomb never be desecrated"

My favorite:
Figure 18
Joseph: "will be given in the own due time of the Lord."
Actual translation: "I am Djabty in the house of Benben in Heliopolis, so exalted and glorious. copulating bull without equal. that mighty god in the house of Benben of Heliopolis… that might god…"
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Sounds like someone has been scoring straight A's in his archeology classes.
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moksha wrote: Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:32 am Sounds like someone has been scoring straight A's in his archeology classes.
And that somebody ain't Joseph Smith.
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How do you spell bamboozle?
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Think what Joseph Smith could have seen with this rock:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... l_Rock.jpg
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Archimedes wrote: Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:21 pm How do you spell bamboozle?
It's sort of a math thing:Wham+bam+thankyouma'am+booze+ill-(wham+thankyouma'am)-il, (z<>l) = bamboozle
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moksha wrote: Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:15 am Think what Joseph Smith could have seen with this rock:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... l_Rock.jpg
Just a glimpse of what's to come. From the LDS Bible Dictionary:
This earth in its celestial condition will be a Urim and Thummim, and many within that kingdom will have an additional Urim and Thummim (D&C 130:6–11).
Imagine that, all you have to do is walk out of your mansion and look down at the ground. But many will have an indoor hat-size version too, so they don't even have to get off their throne and put on their ruby slippers to do that. These are the kind of breadth details I was talking about.
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