What is your freedom worth?

[Archimedes]

Didn't the church produce a video in which this actually happened a while back? As in some old guy was talking about how he would only give his kids their inheritance if they were active and worthy Mormons, and if they weren't, he'd give the money to the church? Does anyone remember that?

What a f*cked up way of thinking. No wonder the church is foundering, if people have to be bribed with trust fund money to make them toe the line.

Don't forget, you can buy anything in this world... for money.

[BriansThoughtMirror]

Yes, the man in the video is named Mellor.

Thanks, I knew I wasn't crazy! You don't have a link to it, do you?

[Reuben]

Yes, the man in the video is named Mellor.

Thanks, I knew I wasn't crazy! You don't have a link to it, do you?

It was produced by LDS Philanthropies, which is under the Office of the Presiding Bishopric. The video has been taken down, possibly because of its uh, questionable legality, but it's been mirrored on YouTube here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCgoyakvcLw

More background here:

https://exploringmormonism.com/not-the- ... heritance/

[Thoughtful]

Yes, the man in the video is named Mellor.

Thanks, I knew I wasn't crazy! You don't have a link to it, do you?

No, but years ago, Spouseman worked for someone by the same name so it stuck in my head.

[BriansThoughtMirror]

Yes, the man in the video is named Mellor.

Thanks, I knew I wasn't crazy! You don't have a link to it, do you?

It was produced by LDS Philanthropies, which is under the Office of the Presiding Bishopric. The video has been taken down, possibly because of its uh, questionable legality, but it's been mirrored on YouTube here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCgoyakvcLw

More background here:

https://exploringmormonism.com/not-the- ... heritance/

Sweet, thanks!

[hiding in plain sight]

I find this question interesting. Because my knee jerk answer to the question would be that I would rather resign than lie to get an inheritance no matter what the size.

The funny thing is that I am still active at church without any promise of an inheritance.

But for me, I am not pretending. I never say anything I don't believe. I call out dangerous teachings if I hear them. I am respectful of others beliefs and don't choose to be in everyone's face, but I also am willing to drop clues for those with the ears to hear and the eyes to see.

I think for me it comes down to me choosing to do this journey WITH my wife.

As long as she wants to be in the community, I am going to choose to be with her.

The only caveat to that statement is this. And she knows it. If the church leadership pushes asks me to do things that I am uncomfortable with, then it is possible for the church to push me out.

But until that day comes, I choose to be with my wife.

I guess that's worth more to me than a multi-million $ inheritance.

[LostMormon]

We all know that money can't buy happiness, but it can buy you a boat, and a truck to pull it.

[Emower]

Yeah, I would stay in to inherit. Then I would turn around and tell my kids to remove their names from the church or they don’t inherit. It would be worth it to get them out.

This!

+5000. I would absolutely stay to inherit. I dont know how hard that would be, but hey, we all do things we dont want to for money right?

[Linked]

I think considering this in terms of economic value makes sense. You can assign just about anything an economic value in good old USD. So what is the cost (value) of doing whatever it takes to get the inheritance? What is the value of the inheritance? If the inheritance is significantly larger than the cost, then do what you've got to do. But only the individual can determine the personal cost.

And money is freedom. With enough money you are free to pursue the noblest or basest of interests. You can even buy influence (like Alas' suggestion). Money is a tool, and in this equation your friend should consider what that tool can do.

[slavereeno]

And money is freedom. With enough money you are free to pursue the noblest or basest of interests. You can even buy influence (like Alas' suggestion). Money is a tool, and in this equation your friend should consider what that tool can do.

This is true. We shall see, by outward appearances this friend is still TBM anyway, so its a moot point. There have just been complaints about how dogmatic and controlling the old dude is, in particular about the church.