Mixed Faith article on LDS.org landing page

[BriansThoughtMirror]

I could be wrong but I think it got snuck through because it's the "blog" site on lds.org. Maybe the correlation police let it slide.

Dang, I only read it from the direct link. I misunderstood and thought it was on the main page. Where is the blog site?

[FiveFingerMnemonic]

I could be wrong but I think it got snuck through because it's the "blog" site on lds.org. Maybe the correlation police let it slide.

Dang, I only read it from the direct link. I misunderstood and thought it was on the main page. Where is the blog site?

https://www.lds.org/blog/?lang=eng

[Linked]

I could be wrong but I think it got snuck through because it's the "blog" site on lds.org. Maybe the correlation police let it slide.

Dang, I only read it from the direct link. I misunderstood and thought it was on the main page. Where is the blog site?

It's on the main page of lds.org as of right now. Give the site administrator props where it's due.

I sent the link to DW, we'll see what she thinks. It's nice to have a safe source telling her she can love me.

[Reuben]

I love the article. So does my wife.

The only beef I have with it is this one phrase, used in two places: where he is in his faith.

I would like a replacement phrase, because it seems this one gets used to describe other people who are behind in some way. In this case, it tells me that the writer thinks faith lies on a spectrum between "doesn't believe the church's claims" and "is certain of the church's claims." At least, she writes as if faith that matters is on a spectrum like that.

I like my new agnostic faith better than my old faith. I think for me it's an improvement. But I wouldn't talk about "where my wife is" in either her faith or her doubt.

Any suggestions for replacement phrases?

[moksha]

The story certainly marks a departure from much of what has appeared in Church publications and what members have previously been told to value. The message to me is one of the Church tolerating the concept of pluralism. It is a tacit acknowledgment that women have their own thoughts and feelings separate from an overarching desire to please the Church.

[Archimedes]

Just a minor quibble; I would add the word "can:"

The message to me is one of the Church tolerating the concept of pluralism. It is a tacit acknowledgment that women can have their own thoughts and feelings separate from an overarching desire to please the Church.

Though women or men for that matter can have their own thoughts and feelings separate from an overarching desire to please the church, some choose not to.

[slavereeno]

From the exmormon reddit...

Who Do I Choose—God or My Husband? If You Have to Ask, You're in a Cult.

[Reuben]

From the exmormon reddit...

Who Do I Choose—God or My Husband? If You Have to Ask, You're in a Cult.

r/exmormon: Every cloud has a charcoal lining

r/exmormon: Confirming our loved ones' worst fears since 2005

r/exmormon: For those whose cartoon heroes became cartoon villains

To their credit, the top-rated comment pushes back against such tribalism.

[BriansThoughtMirror]

I love the article. So does my wife.

The only beef I have with it is this one phrase, used in two places: where he is in his faith.

I would like a replacement phrase, because it seems this one gets used to describe other people who are behind in some way. In this case, it tells me that the writer thinks faith lies on a spectrum between "doesn't believe the church's claims" and "is certain of the church's claims." At least, she writes as if faith that matters is on a spectrum like that.

I like my new agnostic faith better than my old faith. I think for me it's an improvement. But I wouldn't talk about "where my wife is" in either her faith or her doubt.

Any suggestions for replacement phrases?

I agree with all of your criticism. However, given that the writer is a true believer, I don't think I could ask for anything better. We write from our own perspectives, right? She's writing from her point of view that the church REALLY is true, and despite that, she still wants to love and honor her husband, who disagrees completely about religion. I think that's pretty cool.

In "In Faith and Doubt", the author suggested being able to take "the ultimate compliment". That's the idea that a believer, can say to a non-believer that they are a good person, and despite what anyone else thinks, they think the non-believer will be all right with God. A non-believer could legitimately feel like they are being condescended to, but what more can the non-believer ask? The believer would have to give up their beliefs and agree with the non-believer to compromise any more than that.

So, yeah, it does feel a little condescending, but I'm sure they feel the same way about some things I say. I'll take it!

[BriansThoughtMirror]

r/exmormon: Confirming our loved ones' worst fears since 2005

Haha, true... I will say that communities like that also gave me real, good advice that sounds a LOT like what the lds.org article says! And they gave me that advice a long time ago! It's not ALL rage over there, though there is quite a bit (some of which I think is justified). It's got a place.
But, it definitely confirms fears about apostasy!

[slavereeno]

r/exmormon: Confirming our loved ones' worst fears since 2005

Haha, true... I will say that communities like that also gave me real, good advice that sounds a LOT like what the lds.org article says! And they gave me that advice a long time ago! It's not ALL rage over there, though there is quite a bit (some of which I think is justified). It's got a place.
But, it definitely confirms fears about apostasy!

I have been bingeing on r/exmormon for the past two days. I need an intervention.

[Emower]

r/exmormon: Confirming our loved ones' worst fears since 2005

Haha, true... I will say that communities like that also gave me real, good advice that sounds a LOT like what the lds.org article says! And they gave me that advice a long time ago! It's not ALL rage over there, though there is quite a bit (some of which I think is justified). It's got a place.
But, it definitely confirms fears about apostasy!

I have been bingeing on r/exmormon for the past two days. I need an intervention.

Reddit was bad for my marriage. It got me whipped up about things. I would be fine then reddit would send me into a tailspin. But it is the best way to keep up on Mormon "news."