Misogyny, certainly not. Right?

[IT_Veteran]

DW told me tonight that she has been asked to present at the YW meeting this week. What is she presenting you ask? Meal planning. All of the girls are creating a two-week meal plan. Couldn’t do this for a combined activity so both groups learn how to plan since only the girls need to know how to do this, evidently.

[Palerider]

Just ask the YM leader to suggest a combined meeting to the YW leader and see what happens.

You never know....

[RubinHighlander]

Life skills...LDS life skills.

[IT_Veteran]

Just ask the YM leader to suggest a combined meeting to the YW leader and see what happens.

You never know....

The YM leader is a former bishop and recently returned senior missionary (within the last three years). I’ve sat in many ward council and PEC meetings with him. He’s a nice guy, but unless it’s tied *directly* to mission prep, admission to BYU, or marriage in the temple, I don’t think he’s interested.

[Corsair]

I have to give some credit to the YM president in my ward. He held a combined activity on car maintenance for all of the youth.

[Palerider]

Just ask the YM leader to suggest a combined meeting to the YW leader and see what happens.

You never know....

The YM leader is a former bishop and recently returned senior missionary (within the last three years). I’ve sat in many ward council and PEC meetings with him. He’s a nice guy, but unless it’s tied *directly* to mission prep, admission to BYU, or marriage in the temple, I don’t think he’s interested.

Has he forgotten that missionaries have to cook for themselves? You have to sell it.

[IT_Veteran]

Just ask the YM leader to suggest a combined meeting to the YW leader and see what happens.

You never know....

The YM leader is a former bishop and recently returned senior missionary (within the last three years). I’ve sat in many ward council and PEC meetings with him. He’s a nice guy, but unless it’s tied *directly* to mission prep, admission to BYU, or marriage in the temple, I don’t think he’s interested.

Has he forgotten that missionaries have to cook for themselves? You have to sell it.

I would if I still talked to him. I haven't been to church since Jan/Feb. When I left I sent an email to the bishop asking for no reactivation attempts or contact from leadership, home teachers, or missionaries. So far, they've respected that. I don't want to spoil a good thing.

[Palerider]

Right. Better to just leave that alone.

[glass shelf]

The thing is that meal planning is a very useful life skill for everyone, and I can definitely get behind this as an activity for all of the youth. I'm working hard to make sure that all of my kids know how to cook food and take care of themselves. My teenage son has taken several sessions of a weekly cooking class, and he's really enjoyed it. There are usually more boys than girls in his class, and it's a completely voluntary community program that the same core group of kids keeps taking. It is (shocker) even taught by a male who knows how to cook.

[IT_Veteran]

The thing is that meal planning is a very useful life skill for everyone, and I can definitely get behind this as an activity for all of the youth. I'm working hard to make sure that all of my kids know how to cook food and take care of themselves. My teenage son has taken several sessions of a weekly cooking class, and he's really enjoyed it. There are usually more boys than girls in his class, and it's a completely voluntary community program that the same core group of kids keeps taking. It is (shocker) even taught by a male who knows how to cook.

100% agree, and we have our kids assist with planning and shopping from time to time. If they’d done it as a combined activity I wouldn’t have a problem with it. My problem is that stuff like this is *usually* only done with the YW and it’s because that’s seen as their role.

[moksha]

The thing is that meal planning is a very useful life skill for everyone.

Absolutely. Mom did all that stuff when I was growing up and did not want anyone underfoot in the kitchen. When I left home it hit me like a ton of bricks that I did not know this essential skill. Fortunately, there were cookbooks and now there are many how-to variations of major international cuisine to be found on internet videos. BTW, the YouTube channel Strictly Dumpling is a treasure trove of yumminess.

[Red Ryder]

The thing is that meal planning is a very useful life skill for everyone.

Absolutely. Mom did all that stuff when I was growing up and did not want anyone underfoot in the kitchen. When I left home it hit me like a ton of bricks that I did not know this essential skill. Fortunately, there were cookbooks and now there are many how-to variations of major international cuisine to be found on internet videos. BTW, the YouTube channel Strictly Dumpling is a treasure trove of yumminess.

I thought everyone knew how to cook fish sticks!

[alas]

The thing is that meal planning is a very useful life skill for everyone.

Absolutely. Mom did all that stuff when I was growing up and did not want anyone underfoot in the kitchen. When I left home it hit me like a ton of bricks that I did not know this essential skill. Fortunately, there were cookbooks and now there are many how-to variations of major international cuisine to be found on internet videos. BTW, the YouTube channel Strictly Dumpling is a treasure trove of yumminess.

I thought everyone knew how to cook fish sticks!

Not so. My DAUGHTER can’t manage to get that right. She would manage to burn them. Her wife says, that at age 40, my dead daughter can’t boil water without burning it. She was the child that when ever I tried to teach her to cook or sew or anything one or the other of us ended up in tear and fit to be tied. She was too much like me in her ADD and she is on the autism spectrum, and me, of course I won’t get tested for being on the spectrum because I just might be. So, we would set each other off in weird ways. Looking back, I had her father deal with her a lot because me and her couldn’t be in the same room without one of us having the kind of melt down that autism kids are famous for. I never have that kind of melt down—-except for when I am trying to work with her. I would say it is funny, but it isn’t. I wish adult autism, female autism, and high functioning autism were recognized back them. But when I was born, there was barely any diagnosis of autism, and only the most extreme kids (all boys) were even recognized as having a problem. The rest of us just needed to focus, stop the daydreaming, stop twirling our pencil (yup, I had behaviors that now might get me diagnosed) and try harder. I had trouble in school. My teachers were always after me, because I tested top first or second percentile, but could not learn in class. So, instead, they taught me that I was stupid. But, anyway, I could not teach my daughter anything. She either learned in school, on her own, or she didn’t learn it. So, all her life, on her night to cook, they eat take out, and it is a good thing she married a woman instead of a kitchen helpless man. Not that all or even most men are kitchen helpless, but some are. I actually wish that she had gotten cooking lessons in YW, but her leaders were just not into that.

[Archimedes]

The thing is that meal planning is a very useful life skill for everyone.

Absolutely. Mom did all that stuff when I was growing up and did not want anyone underfoot in the kitchen. When I left home it hit me like a ton of bricks that I did not know this essential skill. Fortunately, there were cookbooks and now there are many how-to variations of major international cuisine to be found on internet videos. BTW, the YouTube channel Strictly Dumpling is a treasure trove of yumminess.

I thought everyone knew how to cook fish sticks!

..and the recipe for tater tots is right there on the bag!

[crossmyheart]

The worst one for me was when they had the YW cook and serve a meal to the YM. Seriously. This was back in the day when the rule about no cooking in the ward's kitchen was more of a guideline instead of a rule.

The boys all played basketball while we worked. The girls were just giddy to show the boys what a fine domestic goddess they would make.

I have always been a Morticia in a world of June Cleavers. (copyright Facebook or somewhere else)

[IT_Veteran]

The worst one for me was when they had the YW cook and serve a meal to the YM. Seriously. This was back in the day when the rule about no cooking in the ward's kitchen was more of a guideline instead of a rule.

The boys all played basketball while we worked. The girls were just giddy to show the boys what a fine domestic goddess they would make.

I have always been a Morticia in a world of June Cleavers. (copyright Facebook or somewhere else)

I just... I can’t even.

I think our YM actually cooked for the YW one night, but don’t remember exactly.

[glass shelf]

The thing is that meal planning is a very useful life skill for everyone, and I can definitely get behind this as an activity for all of the youth. I'm working hard to make sure that all of my kids know how to cook food and take care of themselves. My teenage son has taken several sessions of a weekly cooking class, and he's really enjoyed it. There are usually more boys than girls in his class, and it's a completely voluntary community program that the same core group of kids keeps taking. It is (shocker) even taught by a male who knows how to cook.

100% agree, and we have our kids assist with planning and shopping from time to time. If they’d done it as a combined activity I wouldn’t have a problem with it. My problem is that stuff like this is *usually* only done with the YW and it’s because that’s seen as their role.

That is the problem for sure. As the wife of a grown man who still claims h can't pick out produce, I find it gender roles really, really irritating at times. Yes, I'm that mom in the store making her kids take turns thumping the watermelons. #sorrynotsorry

[IT_Veteran]

The thing is that meal planning is a very useful life skill for everyone, and I can definitely get behind this as an activity for all of the youth. I'm working hard to make sure that all of my kids know how to cook food and take care of themselves. My teenage son has taken several sessions of a weekly cooking class, and he's really enjoyed it. There are usually more boys than girls in his class, and it's a completely voluntary community program that the same core group of kids keeps taking. It is (shocker) even taught by a male who knows how to cook.

100% agree, and we have our kids assist with planning and shopping from time to time. If they’d done it as a combined activity I wouldn’t have a problem with it. My problem is that stuff like this is *usually* only done with the YW and it’s because that’s seen as their role.

That is the problem for sure. As the wife of a grown man who still claims h can't pick out produce, I find it gender roles really, really irritating at times. Yes, I'm that mom in the store making her kids take turns thumping the watermelons. #sorrynotsorry

To be entirely fair, despite grocery shopping for decades with my wife and on my own, I still hate trying to figure out which watermelon is ripe.

[moksha]

I have always been a Morticia in a world of June Cleavers.

On the upside, I imagine you could boil up an excellent Eye of Newt.

[Thoughtful]

I hate meal planning.

However, do children outside the church grow up confused about how to get food on their table? This is something that you figure out because you gotta eat.

If cooking interests you, you'll do it. If not, you'll find something else to eat. No?

My non LDS friends share more recipes and tutorials online than LDS. My LDS friends brag about their cooking, but they really mean they inherited great recipes and can follow them. Most are time consuming and not overly practical for a modern lifestyle, but if mom is home all day and you don't mind a lot of starchy meals (potatoes, rolls, casseroles, jello) they can be tasty. Not many LDS children actually learn to problem solve and cook without a stop by step guide. However, the are LDS parents who don't let their girls go to college until they can perfectly duplicate grandma's pie recipe.

I'm better than fair at cooking because I did 4h, my grandma taught me some principles of how to make a recipe yourself or modify one. In YW we did stupid "meals" like taco salad in a dorito bag.