Solution for teen suicide? Pioneer worship

[Hagoth]

https://www.sltrib.com/news/environment ... ock-trail/

What does Utah’s famed Hole in the Rock trail have to do with reducing the state’s teen suicide rates? Plenty, according to a Utah heritage group. The challenge is connecting youth with the epic journey pulled off at the site by their 19th century counterparts, when 70 pioneer families blazed a path across some of the nation’s most unforgiving terrain to settle San Juan County. Stuart Matheson, who serves on the Hole in the Rock Foundation board, reminded lawmakers on Tuesday that suicide is the leading cause of death for Utahns ages 10 to 17. “Access to this trail provides a significant experience for today’s youth to appreciate the sacrifice and difficult times and hard work of these pioneers, and to learn that applying those universal principals that helped these early pioneers — faith, obedience, courage, strength, perseverance, and hope — helped those hardy pioneers succeed,” Matheson told lawmakers, in support of the state acquiring or leasing the 140-mile Hole in the Rock trail from Escalante to Bluff.

How out of touch with reality can you possibly be? I wouldn't be surprised if they propose a program to cure LGBT kids by making them pull handcarts.

[oliver_denom]

https://www.sltrib.com/news/environment ... ock-trail/

What does Utah’s famed Hole in the Rock trail have to do with reducing the state’s teen suicide rates? Plenty, according to a Utah heritage group. The challenge is connecting youth with the epic journey pulled off at the site by their 19th century counterparts, when 70 pioneer families blazed a path across some of the nation’s most unforgiving terrain to settle San Juan County. Stuart Matheson, who serves on the Hole in the Rock Foundation board, reminded lawmakers on Tuesday that suicide is the leading cause of death for Utahns ages 10 to 17. “Access to this trail provides a significant experience for today’s youth to appreciate the sacrifice and difficult times and hard work of these pioneers, and to learn that applying those universal principals that helped these early pioneers — faith, obedience, courage, strength, perseverance, and hope — helped those hardy pioneers succeed,” Matheson told lawmakers, in support of the state acquiring or leasing the 140-mile Hole in the Rock trail from Escalante to Bluff.

How out of touch with reality can you possibly be? I wouldn't be surprised if they propose a program to cure LGBT kids by making them pull handcarts.

It's as if they consider suicide some form of delinquency that can be solved by keeping kids busy.

[Hagoth]

It's as if they consider suicide some form of delinquency that can be solved by keeping kids busy.

Or that if you just remember how tough the pioneers had it you'll stop feeling sorry for yourself and get out there and do some indexing or something and that will fix everything.

[Corsair]

There's an easy and safe way to evaluate this idea. Let's get a group from Affirmation and the Mama Dragons to take a long weekend and go on this trail with some youth they are working with. Let them do whatever makes sense in this environment and get their review of the experience. I would love to see the Salt Lake City Tribune cover a rainbow flag waving camping and hiking week. Let them have nightly campfire devotionals planned by Affirmation and the Mama Dragons. This would be a fascinating counterpoint to whatever the Provo South Stake would plan for the same trail.

[Red Ryder]

Ironically for some of the pioneers, trekking to Salt Lake City was suicide.

[wtfluff]

It's as if they consider suicide some form of delinquency that can be solved by keeping kids busy.

Or that if you just remember how tough the pioneers had it you'll stop feeling sorry for yourself and get out there and do some indexing or something and that will fix everything.

Yep. This is literally insane: Your pioneer ancestors had it harder than you, they "sacrificed everything" for a lie, so basically you should buck-up.

The "mormon pioneer guilt-trip" is going to fix the suicide epidemic? Seriously???

THIS is a prime example of where religion is damaging. These kooks have their heads up in the clouds (near kolob?) to the point where the literally have no f***ing clue about the reality of their kids dying by suicide.

Yet for some strange reason, I'm not surprised...

[crossmyheart]

Surprised it was the Tribune that published this.

[Thoughtful]

Ironically for some of the pioneers, trekking to Salt Lake City was suicide.

Not only that, some died by suicide after the trek into the valley.

[MoPag]

It's as if they consider suicide some form of delinquency that can be solved by keeping kids busy.

Or that if you just remember how tough the pioneers had it you'll stop feeling sorry for yourself and get out there and do some indexing or something and that will fix everything.

Yep. This is literally insane: Your pioneer ancestors had it harder than you, they "sacrificed everything" for a lie, so basically you should buck-up.

The "mormon pioneer guilt-trip" is going to fix the suicide epidemic? Seriously???

THIS is a prime example of where religion is damaging. These kooks have their heads up in the clouds (near kolob?) to the point where the literally have no f***ing clue about the reality of their kids dying by suicide.

Yet for some strange reason, I'm not surprised...

YES^^^ Fluff nailed it!!

There's an easy and safe way to evaluate this idea. Let's get a group from Affirmation and the Mama Dragons to take a long weekend and go on this trail with some youth they are working with. Let them do whatever makes sense in this environment and get their review of the experience. I would love to see the Salt Lake City Tribune cover a rainbow flag waving camping and hiking week. Let them have nightly campfire devotionals planned by Affirmation and the Mama Dragons. This would be a fascinating counterpoint to whatever the Provo South Stake would plan for the same trail.

This is such a wonderful idea!!!!

[Not Buying It]

How incredibly stupid and damaging. This deserves any ridicule it gets.

[Not Buying It]

I hate Utah pioneer stories anyway. Mormons act like Utah was the only wilderness that was ever settled by anybody. Where do they think all of the other cities in all of the other Western states came from? It's not like every city in the West was established by Mormon pioneers. Utah pioneers weren’t any hardier or braver than anybody who ever settled anyplace else.

The pioneer worship is ridiculous.