Newme wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2017 3:34 pm
Jeffret,
You're proving my point... by engaging in emotional reasoning logical fallacy. Look it up.
fact: a thing that is indisputably the case
A person is born a male or female - with corresponding chromosomes that do not change no matter what genital mutilation is done.
"Dr. Paul R. McHugh, the former psychiatrist-in-chief for Johns Hopkins Hospital and its current Distinguished Service Professor of Psychiatry, said that transgenderism is a “mental disorder” that merits treatment, that sex change is “
biologically impossible,” and that people who promote sexual reassignment surgery are collaborating with and promoting a mental disorder."
https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/mi ... sex-change
What I wonder, Jeffret, is why would you want to encourage behavior that is harmful? What is your goal in doing that?
Sorry, Newme, your feelings do not constitute facts. Nor unfortunately, do the feelings and the opinions of a few oddball folks you like to reference. McHugh's opinions are not well-supported by the data nor by anyone else who has looked at the data. He's had an oversized influence at Johns Hopkins but that is fading as more people recognize the data. Clearly he is driven by his prejudices to attack those he doesn't like.
Some further information on the topic:
McHugh Exposed
Here is HRC's response to McHugh's amici brief:
https://assets.hrc.org//files/assets/re ... 1509230784
His
investment in these cases is puzzling, because McHugh’s research career has never touched on gender
identity or sexual orientation, nor does he appear to have clinical experience with LGBTQ patients.
Nonetheless, in early 2017, McHugh filed a brief in the Supreme Court of the United States arguing
against transgender student Gavin Grimm’s right to use gender-appropriate restrooms in his Gloucester,
VA high school. Listed as coauthors were diabetes researcher Paul Hruz and biostatistician Lawrence
Mayer; like McHugh, neither coauthor appears to have clinical or research experience with transgender
children or adults. This lack of expertise may explain why the brief itself is filled with misunderstandings
and misstatements about transgender children and teens.
The most concerning section of the brief is the assertion that conversion therapy—that is, a range of
practices intended to change a person’s sexual orientation or gender identity—is an appropriate response
to transgender youth. Every major medical and mental health organization, including the American
Medical Association, the American Psychological Association, the American College of Physicians, the
American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Psychoanalytic Association, the American School
Counselor Association, the American Psychological Association and the National Association of School
Psychologists, have explicitly rejected conversion therapy. Not only is there no evidence that these
practices work, research clearly shows that they cause long-lasting psychological harm, including the risk
of suicide (American Academy of Pediatrics Committee on Adolescence, 2013; American College of
Physicians, 2015; American Psychoanalytic Association, 2012; American Psychological Association and
National Association of School Psychologists, 2015; American School Counselor Association, 2014). As
a result, nine states and the District of Columbia have enacted laws or regulations to protect minors from
conversion therapy..
Remarkably, the brief does not cite a single study on the safety or effectiveness of conversion therapy.
The only original report cited on the topic describes the approach of controversial practitioner Ken
Zucker—but presents no data on the results (Zucker, Wood, Singh, & Bradley, 2012). Indeed, the cited
paper admits that “the treatment literature is lacking in terms of rigorous comparative evaluations.”
Simply being a medical doctor or researcher does not make someone an authority on transgender children.
In the United States alone, dozens of experts have dedicated their careers to the health of transgender
children and adolescents, drawing on clinical experience and a growing body of evidence to guide
children and families. In contrast, Paul McHugh and his coauthors boast a total of zero peer-reviewed
research articles on transgender people of any age. It is not clear that they have so much as met a
transgender child.
Neither do the brief’s authors back their outdated, misleading and often false claims with references to
legitimate research.
Ah, I think we can see where his interest comes from: See
Paul McHugh
As part of the USCCB's Review Board, pushed the idea that the Catholic sex abuse scandal was not about pedophilia but about “homosexual predation on American Catholic youth.”
He's got a tribal, religiously based interest in defending his beloved institution, an institution that has covered up lots of abuse.
And this article:
Long shadow cast by psychiatrist on transgender issues finally recedes at Johns Hopkins
And here's a great overview about transgender people and related issues from the American Psychological Association, which uses data-based research to support and help transgender people:
Transgender People, Gender Identity and Gender Expression
