Where did God go? Kiwi Mormon's latest

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Anon70
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http://www.patheos.com/blogs/kiwimormon ... id-god-go/

I enjoy this blog and the comments. Wondering what you all think of this latest one....
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Love it!
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Kiwimormon expressed in a much better way something that I have often felt:

"The Mormon church worships the Mormon Church. Jesus is the mascot."

Meaning the members of the church often seem to worship the prophet, the brethren, the priesthood, the temple ... more than God or Christ.

Kiwimormon's post is definitely going in my files.
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Love Gina!

This is a great post, and one I'm going to share with a friend of mine, who has a habit of sending me "stay in the boat" and "doubt your doubts" stuff. I think Gina hits the nail on the head what I'm feeling about the corporate church these days, and she says it much better than I could.
"And I don't need you...or, your homespun philosophies."
"And when you try to break my spirit, it won't work, because there's nothing left to break."
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I Love Gina!!!!!
Churches don’t save, redeem, rejuvenate, transform or even love. They are just a structure; a container for our personal and collective spiritual observances. And until the priesthood recognises and repents of the collective sin of their self-idolization the Mormons will forever be stuck in the thick of the church’s own arrogant self-congratulation. And God will stay imaged as the priesthood, perpetually entombed in the narrow confines of its own ailing spiritual and mortal imagination.
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believing in old men’s lies...--Ezra Pound
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Bullseye. The priesthood is god. I suspect that it has almost always been that way through history. Only my faith in Jesus Christ keeps me adding the 'almost' to that previous sentence.
God is Love. God is Truth. The greatest problem with organized religion is that the organization becomes god, rather than a means of serving God.
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Instead of creating community, anxiously engaged in bringing forth the Kingdom of God, the church is burdened with homogeneity, conformity, idolatry, judgement, a narrowness of mind, authoritarianism, unreasonable work expectations, manipulation and a tedious and ugly emphasis on right belief – as if belief saves.
Sadly enough I think every church filters down to this level of self flagellation. However, Mormons and Scientology do it best.
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I think this would have spoken to me a year ago or even 6 months. I am no longer in love with "Jesus and the Kingdom he called forth" anymore. That has its own unique set of problems and things that I disagree with as far as people generally interpret it.
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I read this article as well on the same website.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/enigmaticm ... n-studies/


Excerpt:
Conclusion. I don’t know what the goals or motives of the BYU administrators have been over the past thirty years in relationship to the Book of Mormon. I suspect they haven’t actually considered the implications of their policy decisions at all. Their focus is on other important aspects of running a university. However, the law of unintended (and perhaps even some intended) consequences has resulted in a series of administrative policy decisions over the past thirty years all of which have combined to result in undermining serious ancient Book of Mormon studies at BYU. Indeed, if their actual goal was to intentionally minimize the discipline of ancient Book of Mormons studies, they could have achieved that goal no better than by making precisely the decisions they have made.
I dont know who Bill Hamblin is, but he ought to remember that the governing body of BYU are "The Bretheren" and those decisions are most certainly intentional.
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Gina has a marvelous way of stating the obvious that I somehow could never put into words. How true that Mormons have given up belief in christ for belief in priesthood leaders.
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2bizE wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:51 pm Gina has a marvelous way of stating the obvious that I somehow could never put into words. How true that Mormons have given up belief in christ for belief in priesthood leaders.
2bizE, I like the succinct way you put it. I would only add one word- many. "Many Mormons have given up belief in Christ for belief in priesthood leaders."
God is Love. God is Truth. The greatest problem with organized religion is that the organization becomes god, rather than a means of serving God.
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