Houston Temple flooded
Houston Temple flooded
Many times when disaster strikes, if a church building or individuals are spared from the effects, it is considered a miracle and by inference a testimony that the church is true.
So now that we see that the Houston temple was not spared, but has flooded fairly badly, what are we supposed to think?
I know, I know.....it's a test.....the saints needed this to humble them.....they needed this experience to allow them to grow.....so either way, flood or no flood, miracle or no miracle, the church is still true.
But if it HAD been spared it would have been a miracle proving that the church is true. No doubt about that.
But then....if the church is still true regardless of which way the disaster goes....why broadcast the apparently miraculous events in the first place? That wouldn't be using the tool of sensationalism to manipulate members would it?
So now that we see that the Houston temple was not spared, but has flooded fairly badly, what are we supposed to think?
I know, I know.....it's a test.....the saints needed this to humble them.....they needed this experience to allow them to grow.....so either way, flood or no flood, miracle or no miracle, the church is still true.
But if it HAD been spared it would have been a miracle proving that the church is true. No doubt about that.
But then....if the church is still true regardless of which way the disaster goes....why broadcast the apparently miraculous events in the first place? That wouldn't be using the tool of sensationalism to manipulate members would it?
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Re: Houston Temple flooded
Funny thing is... "The Church" (And / or any one of it's wholly owned media companies) was still "bragging" that the temple hadn't flooded, when there was evidence that it had actually flooded.
But they would NEVER sensationalize anything for their own benefit, Just ask Jeffrey F. Holland...
Houston Temple Floods
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Crazy, huh? This strategy works in numerous scenarios. Heads I win, tails you lose.
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I am interested in asking several probing questions of the faithful that I imagine would be very poorly received. For example, "what combination of natural disasters could transpire that would lead you to conclude that Mormonism was not the one, true church?" Clearly it cannot be that LDS churches are spared flood, fire, and hurricane. I hold no ire towards churches and wish them to come through this flooding as dry as possible. I am more inclined to wish that kind of good fortune on any home or hospital first, of course.
I am confident that the Houston floods are not a sign that God's wrath is upon Texas. It's a sign that nature is a calloused, indifferent set of circumstances because we live on the crust of cooling planet warmed by a radioactive core along with just enough water on the surface to keep things interesting. As a result, I'm not going to annoy my believing friends and family with this line of inquiry.
Next Sunday is Fast Sunday. I expect a better return on donating any September fast offerings to the Red Cross rather than to the LDS church in any capacity.
I am confident that the Houston floods are not a sign that God's wrath is upon Texas. It's a sign that nature is a calloused, indifferent set of circumstances because we live on the crust of cooling planet warmed by a radioactive core along with just enough water on the surface to keep things interesting. As a result, I'm not going to annoy my believing friends and family with this line of inquiry.
Next Sunday is Fast Sunday. I expect a better return on donating any September fast offerings to the Red Cross rather than to the LDS church in any capacity.
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This clearly is a result of the architect becoming a woman.
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I went looking for a hilariously sexist backstory on this claim and then remembered Laurie Lee Hall – Standing in my truth, Walking in my faith on Mormon Stories.
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i'm certain before it's all over that there will be some picture of jesus or a book of mormon or some extra special artifact that will remain untouched from the effects of the flooding - there will be miracle in all this dammit... there will be...
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Like that Jesus painting in the Provo Tabernacle. And I thought that relic veneration was only a practice of the whore of all the Earth, even the Roman Catholic Church.
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The best part about this is the architect became a women instead of was a woman.Corsair wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 2:43 pmI went looking for a hilariously sexist backstory on this claim and then remembered Laurie Lee Hall – Standing in my truth, Walking in my faith on Mormon Stories.
The architect was a male at the time of the Houston Temple's design/construction/dedication. Comes out as transgender in 2017 and a few months later the temple floods. Coincidence, I think not. The church needs to take out a better insurance policy on all the temples designed by this architect. Clearly, God is pissed and is rebaptizing these temples by water and/or fire.
Reading can severely damage your ignorance.
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I suppose you realize that this is exactly the kind of desperate apologetic that believers would recite after they hear the story of Laurie Lee Hall. This would not be a joke at all. A back story like this suddenly puts all the travails of the Houston temple into focus and makes it "OK" that it happened. It's a faith affirming story of the divine policy of Sodom and Gomorrah still in force today. "God will not be mocked", and He is willing to incur an unconscionable amout of restoration expenses to keep his temple clean.Korihor wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:24 pm The architect was a male at the time of the Houston Temple's design/construction/dedication. Comes out as transgender in 2017 and a few months later the temple floods. Coincidence, I think not. The church needs to take out a better insurance policy on all the temples designed by this architect. Clearly, God is pissed and is rebaptizing these temples by water and/or fire.
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Per Dan Peterson, the church is ex hypothesi true. So yes, I was channeling my form TBM mindset to come to this answer.Corsair wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:26 pmI suppose you realize that this is exactly the kind of desperate apologetic that believers would recite after they hear the story of Laurie Lee Hall. This would not be a joke at all. A back story like this suddenly puts all the travails of the Houston temple into focus and makes it "OK" that it happened. It's a faith affirming story of the divine policy of Sodom and Gomorrah still in force today. "God will not be mocked", and He is willing to incur an unconscionable amount of restoration expenses to keep his temple clean.Korihor wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:24 pm The architect was a male at the time of the Houston Temple's design/construction/dedication. Comes out as transgender in 2017 and a few months later the temple floods. Coincidence, I think not. The church needs to take out a better insurance policy on all the temples designed by this architect. Clearly, God is pissed and is rebaptizing these temples by water and/or fire.
Reading can severely damage your ignorance.
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Yep. This would have satisfied my need for a cause when I was TBM. And it bolsters the church's homophobia to boot!Corsair wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 2:26 pmI suppose you realize that this is exactly the kind of desperate apologetic that believers would recite after they hear the story of Laurie Lee Hall. This would not be a joke at all. A back story like this suddenly puts all the travails of the Houston temple into focus and makes it "OK" that it happened. It's a faith affirming story of the divine policy of Sodom and Gomorrah still in force today. "God will not be mocked", and He is willing to incur an unconscionable amout of restoration expenses to keep his temple clean.Korihor wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:24 pm The architect was a male at the time of the Houston Temple's design/construction/dedication. Comes out as transgender in 2017 and a few months later the temple floods. Coincidence, I think not. The church needs to take out a better insurance policy on all the temples designed by this architect. Clearly, God is pissed and is rebaptizing these temples by water and/or fire.
Too bad all those people's homes had to be ruined by her. \S
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