NOMference Spring 2025 Sunday Morning!!!

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This is just a sad, depressing talk....damn
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Wouldn't that guy have to say the SM prayer again though?
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+5 for trying to address shame culture.
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He's delighted when he sees us on our knees.
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MoPag wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 9:44 am +5 for trying to address shame culture.
I agree - unfortunately the cure is more church nonsense. But I'll add 5 for at least trying.
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One of the better GC talks so far...
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+10. I actually like the talk. Yes, a bit on obedience, but at least not "exact" obedience. And lots of focus of Jesus's grace.
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MoPag wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 9:50 am One of the better GC talks so far...
It's a very low bar . . .
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I'm only half listening, but is he preaching a quid pro quo gospel?
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Eyring spacing out a little there...
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Gong
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Sorrow for what could have been? You are preaching to the choir sir.....
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I want to give points for calling out debilitating perfectionism, but he's not acknowledging the toxic culture it comes from, nor the toxic church teachings that lead to it, soooo, 0
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We've had a few talks that touched on perfectionism. There was also that recent BYU study that said that members are the least susceptible to perfectionism and the group that suffers most from perfectionism are the people that left the church because they didn't understand church teachings (laughable).

They must have done a survey and woke up to perfectionism being a big problem in the church. It's going to take a lot more gc talks to steer ship Zion in a direction away from perfectionism. We're too rooted in prosperity gospel to get away from it in one or two quick mentions during one conference.
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RFM is gonna appreciate that part of the talk.
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+1 for the tie. It's purple. That's kninda Eastery.

-10 for covenant path and sucking up to Nelson more than once in his talk.
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Why are they still sucking up to Rusty? Shouldn't they focus on sucking up to Oaks? He's next in line.
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Funny how there's little visible difference between:
  • He knows.
  • He's indifferent.
  • His priorities are out of whack.
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